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Old April 30th, 2015, 12:07 PM
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403 oil dipstick question

question to the forum. Should the oil dipstick be replaced?

We may install headers. before we get to far ahead on assembly i want to know what to do with the oil dipstick.

Planning in advance...

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Old April 30th, 2015, 12:19 PM
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If it's not broken, no. When installing headers, you may need to remove the dipstick and the tube. But if you don't brake it while removing it, you can just re-use it.
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Old April 30th, 2015, 02:31 PM
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ok, what is the chance that it will break upon removal? I am thinking it will break the instant we try to pull it out.
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Old April 30th, 2015, 02:46 PM
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50/50. It's hard to say. On my 350 I was able to pull it out, it was PIA.
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Old May 1st, 2015, 11:32 PM
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I'm thinking it depends upon how you try to remove it. Grab the end and wiggle and it will likely break, so another method needs to be employed. Unfortunately, I have no recommendations as I have never removed an unbroken one from the top.
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 12:09 PM
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Well, we want to try removing the dipstick tube so information, do's and dont's, would be helpful
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Old May 2nd, 2015, 01:22 PM
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Is the engine in the car ? If so your best bet is to hit it with deep creep . Grab a small block of wood and tap the dip stick down to "shock" the rust loose a little bit then try to wiggle it out a bit . Tap it and repeat. you dont want to hammer on it just tap it enough to break the rust loose. The wheight of a 3lb sledge and a very very light swing should be enough. There is not way to get headers in with out removing it in my exprience. I belive there is a method to get the stem out if it breaks. I think member Joe padovano has mentioned it before.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:03 AM
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yes the engine is still in the car.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:11 AM
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Best bet is to tap it a bit top towards bottom lightly to shock the rust loose then wiggle it out in a star formation .I took mine out yesterday and I crimped it because it fit loose so getting it out was not easy but steady work and not overpowering it should do it.
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Old May 3rd, 2015, 08:46 AM
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factory suggests clamping a bolt in the top and slide/ hammering upward on the vice grips. If you have the starter out of the way, you can tap upwards easily on the vice grips.

extraction vs breakage I have found depends a lot on how rusty the tube is- right next to the manifold. CA cars, I pulled many a tube easily. MI cars, mostly they break off.

To reduce the tightness of the fit some folks say file the bulges
I say do not remove metal, but tap the bulges ever so gently round and round on an anvil and check the fit a lot and shoot for finger press fit on the first bulge and light tap fit on the 2nd bulge. Use sealer like "form a gasket" when you install it.

One car I did that had headers the engine was in/out a lot so I drilled and tapped and put a set screw between the bulges on the tube. Sealer upon install of course.

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Old May 3rd, 2015, 09:14 AM
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starter is still on the engine but the starter will have to be removed to get wrapped for the headers anyway.

I like the bolt idea along with vice grips and slide hammer.

the tube is rusty at the manifold area but caked with oil further down by the block.
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Old May 16th, 2015, 09:20 AM
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alright we went after the dipstick and it broke into two pieces, at the manifold and at the block.

so does anyone have any ideas for this deal?

found a thread...good stuff
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tick-tube.html

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Old May 17th, 2015, 09:56 AM
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The screw with vice grips or slide hammer has worked numerous times for me. Be warned the chrome replacements need the end ground and don't fit tight in the block.
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You can get them to fit tight if you put the taper that is suppoused to fit tight in the block and oblong it by putting it on a vice and just tightening a little bit. I did that with mine and It worked well. No leaks.
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