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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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383 stroker

I dont know much about engines but i know that a 383 stroker is a 350 with a 400 crank, but i wanted to know what would happen if you took an olds 350 and stuck a 455 crank in it. help would be greatly appreciated, thanks Dom
Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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It wouldn't fit.

The bearing journals are different sizes (also the counterweights are too big).

Now, if you put a 455 crank in a Diesel 350 block, that'd be a different story...

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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 04:18 AM
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455 crank won't work........not enough room for the throws. 350 with a 400 crank is a Chevy motor.
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 05:14 AM
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Correct, the only real way to stroke a gas sbo is to offset grind the crank.
However Procomp is supposed to be coming out with stroker sbo crank. Details are unknown at this time however.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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oh damn that blows, can i still make a 383 stroker out of a sbo?
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrojunkie1029
oh damn that blows, can i still make a 383 stroker out of a sbo?
Yes, offset grind the crank to 3.500 stroke, then bore the block to 4.185, that comes to 385 c.i.. or just bore it to 4.155 and that'll make a 380, i.e. 380 Racer.

I have a SBO block that's already bored to 4.155 ready to go laying in waiting for some sort of stroker crank. I'm hoping for a 3.75 stroke to get 406 c.i. That should make it fun!

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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrojunkie1029
oh damn that blows, can i still make a 383 stroker out of a sbo?
Why? There's nothing magic about a 383 cu in displacement. It's now common for Chebby motors due to the ease of dropping a 400 crank into a 350 block, but there's nothing special about it, just cheap for those building an SBC.

I've said this before, but the cheapest way to "stroke" a 350 Olds is to replace it with a 455 Olds...
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:16 AM
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I still think the 380 is a very good combination .
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 10:34 AM
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I still think the 380 is a very good combination .
And I certainly can't argue with results, but of course the best combo for the track is rarely the right one for the street, or vice-versa. It's like all the guys who see Powerglides in drag cars and think that's the trans they should be running in their street car.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:14 AM
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i think a 406 sounds badass
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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is the 455 heavier than the 350?
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nitrojunkie1029
is the 455 heavier than the 350?
It is a little bit taller, a little bit wider, and a little bit heavier.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nitrojunkie1029
is the 455 heavier than the 350?
The difference is around 50 lbs, less if you use an aluminum intake.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:43 PM
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the main reason the chevy's get stroked to 383 is they make more torque and power than as a 350. that said in a chevy to go to the 454 means all new mounts, brackets, headers, etc, etc plus the 454 takes up a lot more space and weight. with the olds being the same external design it makes more sense to just go to the 455 since the only difference is in the height and width by a small amount.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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so a 455 will bolt right into my car if i pull the 350?
Old Jan 25, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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You can take a forged 425 BBO crank and have the counter weights cut down and have the rod journals turned down to 2.100" and run a 6" SBC rod with some custom Pistons and have the 3" mains turned down to 2.5" and it will fit in a gas 350 block. 3.98" 4/00" with a 4.100 to 4.125" bore amd have yourself a 427ci SBO.

It would be cheaper to put the 425 crank in a diesel block so you wouldn't have to have the main journals turned down to 2.5".

People talk about putting over 4" inch stroke cranks into a Diesel block but it really isn't practical because you run into the rods hitting the cam lobes.

427-428ci Small Block Olds is a better way to go than aiming for a 463ci SBO.

You could also put an above mentioned 425ci crank into a 403 gas block and make yourself a 480ci Small block Olds.

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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SBORule
You can take a forged 425 BBO crank and have the counter weights cut down and have the rod journals turned down to 2.100" and run a 6" SBC rod with some custom Pistons and have the 3" mains turned down to 2.5" and it will fit in a gas 350 block. 3.98" 4/00" with a 4.100 to 4.125" bore amd have yourself a 427ci SBO.

It would be cheaper to put the 425 crank in a diesel block so you wouldn't have to have the main journals turned down to 2.5".

People talk about putting over 4" inch stroke cranks into a Diesel block but it really isn't practical because you run into the rods hitting the cam lobes.

427-428ci Small Block Olds is a better way to go than aiming for a 463ci SBO.

You could also put an above mentioned 425ci crank into a 403 gas block and make yourself a 480ci Small block Olds.
I am going to question a lot of this post. Can you cut .500 off the mains? Where do the oil holes end up being? Will everything clear the block? Will it be a balancing nightmare? Will the rods need to be longer than 6". Will the crank alone cost more than an entire 468 bottom end which will have 40 more cubes? Using a 403 block? Really??
Old Jan 27, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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...Will the crank alone cost more than an entire 468 bottom end which will have 40 more cubes?
THANK YOU! Exactly my point. For a street motor, this is by far the most cost effective solution.
Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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I've heard that if you take a 350 DX block, and covert it to gas it becomes a 411 stroker

Stick that in your tailpipe Chevy guys LOL
Old Jan 27, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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Is that a joke? Same bore, same stroke, same cubic inches.
Old Jan 27, 2012 | 03:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure someone ground down a 425 crank, oil holes were way off. A 3.5" and 3.6" stroke are possible with stock crank. I'm going 424 ci with my 403, have the custom pistons, Scat sbc rods and just need my 330 crank off set ground. If 3 transmissions didn't fry this year, I may have started the build.
Old Jan 27, 2012 | 05:15 PM
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Is that a joke? Same bore, same stroke, same cubic inches.
Yup I chuckled
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