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No metal at all just a orange looking plastic.... havent taken the heads off yet but thats my next step.. and no pics sorry my lens is cracked rite now
No never ran bad... But 69 parts in 2015....Its not wrong to start thinking rebuild..
Yes it is.
1969: Parts made of high quality materials by Americans for American cars in the US.
2016: Parts made of "whatever" by Chinese, for nothing in particular (motto: "We copy, we sell, you buy, bye bye!") in Shang Zen.
Unless you want to make specific improvements, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Also, remember, the original head gaskets were steel shims about 0.016" thick, while the standard replacements are fiber and steel, about 0.047" thick, so you will lose about half a point of compression if you pull the heads "just because" and then reassemble with "standard" gaskets without milling the heads.
Change the timing set. If your running, performance, and oil pressure are good, then check the usual wear items and adjustments in the distributor and carburetor, and leave the rest alone.
The plastic teeth are now filling the oil pump inet screen.
Easy enough to remove the oil pan, makes front cover easier. Remove pump, get pcs out of the inlet screen. Replace timing set and oil pump, button it back up
1969: Parts made of high quality materials by Americans for American cars in the US.
2016: Parts made of "whatever" by Chinese, for nothing in particular (motto: "We copy, we sell, you buy, bye bye!") in Shang Zen.
Unless you want to make specific improvements, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
- Eric
X3--- If compression is good, valves are seating okay, and no major oil consumption, leave it alone.... Simply replace timing set....
Actually that sounds really good will try that....but i do have a little leaking fluid coming from the heads...on the passenger side....No anti freeze consumption or oil consumption either...but if its the the timing gear thats where ill start..Thanks You Guys
The leaking fluid may be from your heater hoses. If you do need head gaskets there are some that are much thinner than the Felpro stuff, however they do cost quite a bit more. We'll cross that bridge later if necessary.
Octania posted a good pic of what your original timing gear should look like when you get that far. I'm sure yours will look much different once you get the cover off. You have all the help you need here to get it back running, Good advice on leaving the heads in place until further diagnosis.
I would also like to see some pics if you get a chance to fix your camera.
My timing went out last year i been rplaced that and there wer no plastic at all in that timing set....But i did read once about a plastic bushing/gasket being somewhere on the camshaft.... Or the parts The parts that move the distributor had some plastic on it....But i guess ill just have to investigate a little more.
Ah my camera sucks sorry...As far as oil burning it just milky in the heads and oil pan....Its burns but the oil pump as i can see is clogged so running at half performance dont wanna te that chance and have to pull her out again...any suggestions from this point on where i should go...
Is there a problem procuring the proper hardware- like oh say re-using the stuff that the engine came with? Maybe getting Grade 5 or even Grade 8 bolts. Using thick Heavy Duty Washers like the factory did? Fastenal sells all manner of such things, as does McMaster-Carr....
It just occurred to me we may have jumped the gun. I missed the part where you already had dropped the pan... You might be showing us pcs of valve seals not causing worry. You are close to having the front cover off anyhow. Can you look in the bottom or thru the fuel pump hole and see if your cam sprocket has steel teeth in fine condition?
Perhaps your timing set is all steel because it has been replaced and the oil pan cleaned out already. If in the pan and pump inlet you have only a few tiny particles, that is not the majority of a timing sprocket toothed part. When they come undone, they provide a handful of material.
In taking a photo of otherwise nondescript stuff, always try to put a scale item in there, like a pen tip to point at interesting things.
Last edited by Octania; January 3rd, 2016 at 07:01 PM.
Ok....yes thats the plastic that i found in there......and everything else looks fine no broken or any metal particals...So should i just put everything back together???? And as for the harware thats the whole point of me doing this myself.... But i only know so much thats why im asking you guys...Honestly
Yeah but it all plaastic timing gear is metal.....as i look at it and piece it together it looks as if whatever it is is inserted or pressed into something...Any idea's.....Engine ran fine before pulled apart...just wondering what the hell this is.
January 2nd, 2016, 04:09 PM
