307 won’t fire
307 won’t fire
I’ve had a lot of problems w this car since I bought it in October tryin to get it to run right.it’s a 84 olds 98 w a ccc 307. I’ve made a few other posts on here and the responses have been very helpful, but now this thing won’t run at all. I changed the fuel pump and I changed the plugs (with the gap set at 45.) and it ran once after I changed the plugs and since then it cranks but won’t fire. I changed the fuel pump again thinking I might have got a bad one and it cranks but won’t fire it has spark but I changed the ignition coil, cap, and rotor and it still won’t fire. What else could be keeping it from running? I sprayed starting fluid down the carb and it kinda sputter but won’t fire
How about you stop replacing parts and start troubleshooting. Do you have spark at the plugs when you crank it? Does fuel shoot out of the accelerator pump jets when you pump the throttle while looking down the carb? Those two things will tell you if the problem is fuel or ignition, for starters - without spending any money on parts.
How about you stop replacing parts and start troubleshooting. Do you have spark at the plugs when you crank it? Does fuel shoot out of the accelerator pump jets when you pump the throttle while looking down the carb? Those two things will tell you if the problem is fuel or ignition, for starters - without spending any money on parts.
So now figure out why - blocked fuel filter? Gummed up carb? Cracked rubber hose from the fuel tank to the hard line (so the pump is sucking air instead of fuel)?
And while replacing old parts is fine, I suggest waiting until you find the original problem, since the act of replacing parts can introduce whole new failure modes and compound the problem.
And while replacing old parts is fine, I suggest waiting until you find the original problem, since the act of replacing parts can introduce whole new failure modes and compound the problem.
So now figure out why - blocked fuel filter? Gummed up carb? Cracked rubber hose from the fuel tank to the hard line (so the pump is sucking air instead of fuel)?
And while replacing old parts is fine, I suggest waiting until you find the original problem, since the act of replacing parts can introduce whole new failure modes and compound the problem.
And while replacing old parts is fine, I suggest waiting until you find the original problem, since the act of replacing parts can introduce whole new failure modes and compound the problem.
I dropped the gas tank and looked at the sock filter and changed the rubber lines between the tank and the hard lines
It’s getting gas from the pump to the carb so could that mean my carb is bad?
Remove the fuel filter completely. With a flashlight, look into the carburetor where the fuel filter inlet mates to the carburetor - look for a mouse turd, apple seed, bat quano, lint, fuzz, sand, rubber, or any UFO - remove it if found. With no apparent obstructions, continue to hook up the fuel line to the carburetor WITHOUT the filter. Does fuel flow into the carburetor and you can visualize two streams of fuel entering the carburetor when you engage the throttle linkage?
Do you have the check valve style of fuel filter in the carb? When you do pull the fuel filter, check to see if it has a check valve one end of it. That is the little check valve thingie that supposedly is there for 307s as an anti-drainback valve. It may be sticking causing some issues. Perhaps. IIRC, it's the type of fuel filter called out for all 307 applications.
ACDelco GF471 or equivalent is the check valve filter.
If you wish, find an older AC Delco GF441 or Wix 33048 filter. It fits the same, but should not have the check valve.
Or, it could be you do need the anti drainback feature which could cause what you may be experiencing. At least until the pump fills the bowl again.
Just an idea to check while you're in there.
ACDelco GF471 or equivalent is the check valve filter.
If you wish, find an older AC Delco GF441 or Wix 33048 filter. It fits the same, but should not have the check valve.
Or, it could be you do need the anti drainback feature which could cause what you may be experiencing. At least until the pump fills the bowl again.
Just an idea to check while you're in there.
Unless you are getting too much gas into the motor, starting fluid, carb cleaner or a shot of gas should run the motor momentarily. Being a computer advance distributor means as long as the pick up coil is good and unless the distributor moved a lot, spark timing should be right. It sounds carb related especially after going through the whole fuel system. Everyday Performance rebuilds the CCC carbs, don't trust the mass produced reman carbs.
[QUOTE=69HO43;1317329]Do you have the check valve style of fuel filter in the carb? When you do pull the fuel filter, check to see if it has a check valve one end of it. That is the little check valve thingie that supposedly is there for 307s as an anti-drainback valve. It may be sticking causing some issues. Perhaps. IIRC, it's the type of fuel filter called out for all 307 applications.
ACDelco GF471 or equivalent is the check valve filter.
If you wish, find an older AC Delco GF441 or Wix 33048 filter. It fits the same, but should not have the check valve.
Or, it could be you do need the anti drainback feature which could cause what you may be experiencing. At least until the pump fills the bowl again.
Just an idea to check while you're in there.[/QUOTE
thats something to consider
I didn’t realize there was a check valve in the filter. I used a Fram filter I don’t remember the part number tho
ACDelco GF471 or equivalent is the check valve filter.
If you wish, find an older AC Delco GF441 or Wix 33048 filter. It fits the same, but should not have the check valve.
Or, it could be you do need the anti drainback feature which could cause what you may be experiencing. At least until the pump fills the bowl again.
Just an idea to check while you're in there.[/QUOTE
thats something to consider
I didn’t realize there was a check valve in the filter. I used a Fram filter I don’t remember the part number tho
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