1979 Olds 98 LS: cooling issue

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Old March 20th, 2019, 09:18 PM
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1979 Olds 98 LS: cooling issue

I got some problems with the coolant system of the 350 engine. When driving the car, the level in coolant reservoir will go up over the "hot" mark. When parking the car, you can watch the level go down until the reservoir is nearly empty.

An idling engine will cause bubbles in the reservoir. When I open the radiator cap while the engine is running, every 30 sec there will swash out coolant.

What I also noticed, is that the upper cooling hose will contract when 1) engine cools down 2) when I rev up. Acc. to the seller, water pump has been changed recently.

Looks all this to you guys like a poorly vented cooling system or more like a blown head gasket?


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Originally Posted by ron23
I got some problems with the coolant system of the 350 engine. When driving the car, the level in coolant reservoir will go up over the "hot" mark. When parking the car, you can watch the level go down until the reservoir is nearly empty.

An idling engine will cause bubbles in the reservoir. When I open the radiator cap while the engine is running, every 30 sec there will swash out coolant.

What I also noticed, is that the upper cooling hose will contract when 1) engine cools down 2) when I rev up. Acc. to the seller, water pump has been changed recently.

Looks all this to you guys like a poorly vented cooling system or more like a blown head gasket?


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The cooling system is not supposed to be vented. It's sealed with a 16 PSI pressure cap. It sounds like a head gasket issue or other problem. I would start with a cooling system test to figure out if there is a leak. Follow this with a leakdown test to determine where that leak is.

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Old March 21st, 2019, 06:19 AM
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While bubbles may be a sign of a blown head gasket, it could also be a sign of air evacuating a freshly filled cooling system. Water expands and contracts with temperature, so your reservoir level will be higher at temp and lower when cooled as the coolant leaves the radiator and returns. Two questions, what is the operating temperature of the engine at speed and at idle? If you fill the reservoir, will it maintain that level or does it drop? Water dumping out of an open radiator could happen normally depending on your idle speed and the cycling of the thermostat with water temp. Radiator hoses can collapse as the cooling system temp drops because it creates a vacuum.

Bottom line, you can borrow a cooling system pressure tester at some auto parts stores either free or a small fee. Follow the directions and trouble shoot prior to throwing parts at it.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The cooling system is not supposed to be vented. It's sealed with a 16 PSI pressure cap. It sounds like a head gasket issue or other problem. I would start with a cooling system test to figure out if there is a leak. Follow this with a leakdown test to determine where that leak is.
ok. may there be an air bubble in the water pump? does the pump have a bleeding port? sorry, i am new to american cars.

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While bubbles may be a sign of a blown head gasket, it could also be a sign of air evacuating a freshly filled cooling system. Water expands and contracts with temperature, so your reservoir level will be higher at temp and lower when cooled as the coolant leaves the radiator and returns. Two questions, what is the operating temperature of the engine at speed and at idle? If you fill the reservoir, will it maintain that level or does it drop? Water dumping out of an open radiator could happen normally depending on your idle speed and the cycling of the thermostat with water temp. Radiator hoses can collapse as the cooling system temp drops because it creates a vacuum.

Bottom line, you can borrow a cooling system pressure tester at some auto parts stores either free or a small fee. Follow the directions and trouble shoot prior to throwing parts at it.
Unfortunately, i did not check the engine temperature. i want to buy the car and took a test ride for about 5 miles, so i guess engine had operational temp. there were no other signs of blown head gasket: oil was dark and no white fumes from tailpipe. what made me wondering was the sinking level in the reservoir from filler cap to nearly empty after turning the engine off. I guess there is air in the system and I have to find out why. I will pressure test and co2-test the system. thanks both of you for your help.

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