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Old April 25th, 2016, 05:51 AM
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So what's the actual story on this $21000 "W-30"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-4...r/162049068277

1970 Olds 442 W-30

As the story goes, this is a re-creation of the rare factory drag cars sent out to approximately 50 dealers throughout the US that were in the drag racing program. I don't believe they were actually sold to the public, rather raced by dealerships that were on Dr. Olds High Performance Program.

- Radio delete
- Heater delete
- Low back seats (lightweight)
- NO power options (by design)
- 433 Olds 12-bolt rear-end
- Plus all standard high-performance W-30 equipment
- Car is complete and fully detailed
- Runs on pump gas and is fully driveable with no issues
- Brutally fast with great street manners!
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Old April 25th, 2016, 06:22 AM
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Well, other than the fact that there are exactly NO "W-30" parts visible in any of the photos, sure, why not...

Where do I begin?

Black inner fenders, "O.A.I." ducting that pretty much defeats the purpose of having the W-25 hood, Cutlass grilles, Pontiac (?) upholstery, A/C alternator position (but no A/C), painted-over A/C relay on the pass-side fender, Holley carb, aftermarket valve covers, black painted intake (?), etc, etc. I doubt it even has a 344... VIN.

But he has lots of trophies...
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Old April 25th, 2016, 06:25 AM
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Yup, it's just like I remember them with the rain gutter plastic/ 'vette tailpipe scoops. It is a very rare machine.
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Old April 25th, 2016, 06:57 AM
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First warning...."As the story goes..." Yes, the STORY!

Most interesting Olds story I've seen in a while. That is, if it is an Olds. We just can't confirm at this point. HAHA!
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Old April 25th, 2016, 08:05 AM
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From the equipment and story, sounds like the '66 track cars. Though, the early service manual showed the '70 OAI to be with the '69 style under the bumper set-up, until it was later updated with the production OAI hood & air cleaner.
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Old April 25th, 2016, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by anthonyP
From the equipment and story, sounds like the '66 track cars. Though, the early service manual showed the '70 OAI to be with the '69 style under the bumper set-up, until it was later updated with the production OAI hood & air cleaner.
Frequently, the early release manuals simply used the illustrations from the previous year's manual, whether they were correct or not. For example, I have a 1978 Chevy CSM, and many of the body and dash illustrations for the Malibu/Camino show the 1977 cars, not the new 1978s.

As for the story, that's exactly what it is without documentation. Besides, it even says this is a "re-creation". It also says "no power options by design", yet this was obviously an A/C car.

Pretty crappy "re-creation"...
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Old April 26th, 2016, 04:57 AM
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They should have put the "best offer" option on the listing. I don't get why people do fixed price and assume someone is going to jump on it. Everyone likes to get a deal and when you don't let someone negotiate a little then there is always a larger risk of a no-sale.

Anyway, the condition of the car overall probably could get close to the asking price. Doesn't look bad to me, just not what most people are looking for when it comes to a "W-30."
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Old April 26th, 2016, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
...just not what most people are looking for when it comes to a "W-30."
Yeah, like the fact that is isn't actually a W-30...
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Old April 26th, 2016, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Yeah, like the fact that is isn't actually a W-30...
True, but I bet that doesn't really matter to some as much at this price point. As long as they have a "nice" car then they probably don't care if it is all correct or not.
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Sure, like the average person won't even notice it has the lightweight 442 side emblems or the crooked stripes. Fact is, that car would probably trophy over my 69 442 at a local show because people see red...W-30...the "story"....
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Old April 26th, 2016, 09:34 AM
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So these factory drag cars they speak of, did they even exist?
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Well, the car has to be a replica of SOMETHING.
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I messaged him for information. Asked what VIN is and if block is numbers match. Also asked about the ram air ducts and hood not making sense.

His response:

"vin#336870E146932- fenderwells are plastic-block#396021F withEheads-yes it has disks! started life as a cutlass and recreated as what you see here! build sheet included! thanks for your interest in my car!"
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Old April 27th, 2016, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by lemoldsnut
I messaged him for information. Asked what VIN is and if block is numbers match. Also asked about the ram air ducts and hood not making sense.

His response:

"vin#336870E146932- fenderwells are plastic-block#396021F withEheads-yes it has disks! started life as a cutlass and recreated as what you see here! build sheet included! thanks for your interest in my car!"
Well at least he is responding to questions. May not be the answers that anyone is looking for...but he did disclose some additional info anyway.
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The ram air hood and under bumper scoops on the same car is definitely a first.
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Originally Posted by Joffroi
The ram air hood and under bumper scoops on the same car is definitely a first.

No, I've seen it done before. Just not by anybody who had half a clue.
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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
No, I've seen it done before. Just not by anybody who had half a clue.
It's a "look"...

Still, not as bad as cutting an O.A.I. hood for a blower or tunnel ram.

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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It's a "look"...

Still, not as bad as cutting an O.A.I. hood for a blower or tunnel ram.
An original OAI hood at any rate. That entire front end looks like a fibreglass recreation and I'd be surprised if the hood was original.


There are just so many things not right there! And it's hurting my eyes.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by VI Cutty
An original OAI hood at any rate. That entire front end looks like a fibreglass recreation and I'd be surprised if the hood was original.
No actual O.A.I. hoods were harmed in that making of that car. That front end looks like the VFN one-piece front end.
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