OCA, Ozark 1/4 mile runs 2024.

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Old Aug 3, 2024 | 02:07 PM
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OCA, Ozark 1/4 mile runs 2024.

Thanks to the uploader, Nate Lukasiewicz. His father's car is the burgundy 1969 W31. His uncle's car is the dark blue 68 442.

Beautiful Oldsmobile's beautifully shot. Lots of wheels up action. Lots of great racing. Well filmed.

Old Aug 3, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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That hearse was awesome!
Old Aug 3, 2024 | 04:58 PM
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I’m kinda surprised at the times on some of those 1970 era 442s. I bought a wrecked Cutlass Supreme shell back in the 80s that had a lot a drag strip timeslips in the glove box. The car (before I bought the stripped shell) had a swapped 455 engine and 3.73 rearend and the quickest timeslip was 13.52 and the slowest was 14.09. I woulda thought a factory 1970 442 OAI car would be close to that 13 1/2 second time.
Old Aug 3, 2024 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
I’m kinda surprised at the times on some of those 1970 era 442s. I bought a wrecked Cutlass Supreme shell back in the 80s that had a lot a drag strip timeslips in the glove box. The car (before I bought the stripped shell) had a swapped 455 engine and 3.73 rearend and the quickest timeslip was 13.52 and the slowest was 14.09. I woulda thought a factory 1970 442 OAI car would be close to that 13 1/2 second time.
It would depend on the drag strips it was raced on. Not all drag strips had "high traction" asphalt or a few hundred feet of concrete at the starting line. Altitude can be calculated to "sea level", but there was no "correction factor" between drag strips. Tires and tune can also be factors.
....Just my two cents worth.
Old Aug 3, 2024 | 10:16 PM
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Yeah, those are factors to consider. That drag strip was a decomissioned concrete runway at around 10 feet above sea level (Gulf Coast area). I suppose at 10 feet an altitude correction factor is not necessary.
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Top Notch!. This caught beautifully at about 5:11 how the left lane failed to stage. That would be me.
Old Aug 4, 2024 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
I woulda thought a factory 1970 442 OAI car would be close to that 13 1/2 second time.
Yes, Ozark is a slow track.

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Altitude can be calculated to "sea level", but there was no "correction factor" between drag strips.
That's unfortunate. Offering the corrected number as well would of been great. Many don't pay attention to this but it can be a huge difference.

Englishtown's elevation was 75 feet, Atco's was 88 feet, Ozark is 1381 feet. Now throw in the summer weather and its as if you are stuck in the mud.

Density Altitude worked out to around 5177 feet above sea level for these passes. A 14 flat corrects to a 13.36 a 13 flat corrects to a 12.4

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That would be me.
Part of the game, can't tell you how many times I have botched a pass over the years. And after a few hundred passes I'm sure it can still happen especially because the next time I go I will be very rusty.
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I checked out the DA when I got there around 4:00…I believe it was about 2700.
Either way not great.

Sometimes in the early Spring down here, we get a negative DA.
We call it “mineshaft” air!
Old Aug 5, 2024 | 09:05 AM
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Thanks for the video
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
It would depend on the drag strips it was raced on. Not all drag strips had "high traction" asphalt or a few hundred feet of concrete at the starting line. Altitude can be calculated to "sea level", but there was no "correction factor" between drag strips. Tires and tune can also be factors.
....Just my two cents worth.
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Yes, Ozark is a slow track.

That's unfortunate. Offering the corrected number as well would of been great. Many don't pay attention to this but it can be a huge difference.
Englishtown's elevation was 75 feet, Atco's was 88 feet, Ozark is 1381 feet. Now throw in the summer weather and its as if you are stuck in the mud.

Density Altitude worked out to around 5177 feet above sea level for these passes. A 14 flat corrects to a 13.36 a 13 flat corrects to a 12.4
Originally Posted by Rallye469
I checked out the DA when I got there around 4:00…I believe it was about 2700.
Either way not great.
Sometimes in the early Spring down here, we get a negative DA.
We call it “mineshaft” air!
All the magazine articles are based on "the coasts". The drag strip times can't be quoted as gospel for all who drive these cars. Differences in track conditions and traction have as much effect as air density and time of day. Comparing drag strip times from one magazine to another is not very accurate.
I have known people that bought all the "Motion Performance" trinkets and the parts made a marginal difference at the drags strips I was at. Needless to say, people were disappointed they couldn't duplicate the times in the car magazines.

Here is a pic. This was the E.T. National record holding 68 H/O at my drag strip in Cedar Falls, Iowa. The car ran about the same times as my car that day.



At the 1969 NHRA Springnationals in Dallas, Texas. I ran a .1/sec. quicker than the class in time trials and no one was running on their record. Perhaps you can recognize these pics.


Dick Smothers (in the hat) and Lovely Linda Vaughn in yellow with her back to us.

Dick Smothers and someone I can't identify.


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Old Aug 5, 2024 | 10:05 AM
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Thanks for sharing.
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The video above skipped over my buy back run, it would have been late in the showing, the maroon 69 Cutlass W-31 behind me (the Uploader's Dad's car). I was hoping to see how badly I fouled. I made a 16 x 20 poster blow up of my car in the gate and his car is next, it's prominently displayed in the background of the photo. Man, I'll say it again, this is one of the best photos ever taken of my 94!

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Originally Posted by Fun71
I’m kinda surprised at the times on some of those 1970 era 442s. I bought a wrecked Cutlass Supreme shell back in the 80s that had a lot a drag strip timeslips in the glove box. The car (before I bought the stripped shell) had a swapped 455 engine and 3.73 rearend and the quickest timeslip was 13.52 and the slowest was 14.09. I woulda thought a factory 1970 442 OAI car would be close to that 13 1/2 second time.
Some of the cars were running 1/8th class. During time runs they let off at the 1/8th but the timing system was set up to trigger at the 1/4. Took me a while to figure it out as well that day.
Old Aug 6, 2024 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rallye469
I checked out the DA when I got there around 4:00…I believe it was about 2700.
Either way not great.
But still much better. Cuts the performance loss in half. Maybe I made a mistake, this is what I used for weather, calculation, and converting, in order. https://www.wunderground.com/history...date/2024-7-26 http://www.wallaceracing.com/grains-water.php http://www.wallaceracing.com/convert-et-to-msa.php

Originally Posted by Rallye469
Sometimes in the early Spring down here, we get a negative DA.
We call it “mineshaft” air!
Perfection...

Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
All the magazine articles are based on "the coasts". The drag strip times can't be quoted as gospel for all who drive these cars. Differences in track conditions and traction have as much effect as air density and time of day. Comparing drag strip times from one magazine to another is not very accurate.
Never a better example than the 2018 Dodge Demon's legendary pass, setting the mark for quickest production car to the 1/4 mile in history at the time. Social media was divided, some in awe and others saying it can't be duplicated in real life. Would see countless videos and comments on Youtube saying Dodge is full of **** nobody's gotten close to the 9.65 @ 140 MPH. While they referenced 1/4 mile events in Texas in the summer, midday ...

Meanwhile Dodge achieved it by making the pass in Florida, at night, in the winter, 138 ft elevation, 42 degrees, with a -1200 DA and the beautiful 137 LB professional race car driver Leah Pritchett at the wheel.




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I've always cut out all the calculations and just used this.
It makes it quite easy when your sitting in the staging lanes with your window marker and the weathers going crazy after dark.
Usually after 9:00 the dew point starts dropping and your car is covered in water. It gets difficult to dial in after dark.
https://airdensityonline.com/us-track-list/

As far as the Dodge run, that wouldn't surprise me at all.
They were going for the hyped up story and not real world results.

My car ran it's best time of 10:59 on a decent 80 degree day in May.
Always wondered what it would have done in January.
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