455 overbore limits
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455 overbore limits
What is the largest overbore possible on a 455 olds block? I've heard people say the cylinder walls are .300" thick. Has anyone sonic tested a standard bore 455?
#2
It is my understand .125 is max if you sonic test. This maybe be wrong but i think i heard that somewhere. I doubt if there is enough wall thickness left with out hard block with .125 bore.JMO
#3
Well that may be true on the thrust sides, but unless you come across a block used for a pump etc I have yet to sonic check one that has more than .180-.190 wall thickness front to back. It doesn't matter how thick the thrust sides are, you have to maintain at least .090-.100 thickness at its thinnest point. Otherwise you'll sacrifice ring seal and longevity.
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#4
Well that may be true on the thrust sides, but unless you come across a block used for a pump etc I have yet to sonic check one that has more than .180-.190 wall thickness front to back. It doesn't matter how thick the thrust sides are, you have to maintain at least .090-.100 thickness at its thinnest point. Otherwise you'll sacrifice ring seal and longevity.
#5
I have sonic checked all the 455 blocks I have. They all are thinnest in the 3o'clock and 9o'clock positions. They are all fairly close to each other in wall thickness. They all measure in the .180-.190 range on non thrust and upper .200 to close to .300 on the thrust. Can't remember exact thrust thickness but was thick enough was not concerned. My DX I am building measured at its thinnest .204 non thrust. Standard bore. It is now bored to 4.155 so it still has some room for at least one more bore. Always measure a block it is cheap insurance.
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Yes, it will increase your oil temps due to the loss of cooling via the bottom of the cylinder. And there's no guarantee the thinnest spots will be at the bottom. Even though it'll stabilize the whole cylinder to some degree imo you're better of not doing that unless absolutely necessary.
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Yes, it will increase your oil temps due to the loss of cooling via the bottom of the cylinder. And there's no guarantee the thinnest spots will be at the bottom. Even though it'll stabilize the whole cylinder to some degree imo you're better of not doing that unless absolutely necessary.
#10
Well Mark i guess you are being sarcastic! Could you point out which part of my post was hard to understand? The post i made was about a racing engine!You were suggesting not to do this block filler at a max bore.So what are you saying a street motor? To never use block filler unless necessary in a street platform. At one time on ROP there were a few street cars using block filler to the water pump holes. Now you are saying block filler on a race engine is fine? I am just trying to understand!
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455 block overbore
Now, since Mark takes pleasure in accusing me of being vague and muddying the water, I will specifically answer the original question.
My 524 BBO uses a 4.280" bore. That is 0.155" over standard bore. I am not aware of any 455 build that uses a bigger bore than 4.280". Perhaps one of the engine builders does but I do not.
I AM NOT TELLING YOU THAT YOU CAN DO THIS TO ANY GIVEN 455 BLOCK BECAUSE YOU CAN'T.
I DO NOT ADVOCATE OR RECOMMEND THAT YOU TRY TO REPLICATE A 4.280" BORE ON A 455 BLOCK.
I hope I answered your question and also hope I haven't offended some others by providing that answer.......
Oh....and Mark.....have a nice day.
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Brian 507 told me he used a stand alone exterior filter and a cooler. He was one i was referring to as a street car but there are others. You also said it was hard to understand my post.I ask you to explain!
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