billmerbach

Hi guys as you know on trying to do as close to a stock freshening up on my 350 rocket as I can. I need me a cam that's stock maybe with low miles as well as rods. I don't want to do a major freshen up because I want to be able to drive it while I learn more about the art of engine building/tuning. If anyone out there has a low mile can and rods I would greatly appreciate it so I can bring some new life back into my engine.


Thanks in advance,
Bill Merbach

oldcutlass

Which rods, push rods or connecting rods, the guys will need clarification?

billmerbach

Sorry, I mean pushrods

69ishHoliday

Bill, I think money would be better spent to freshen the heads with a good valve job, guides if needed, and seals. - Steven

billmerbach

Steven I wish I had that much right now im gonna they and get the little things first and try to do the heads last since they bolt to the block and I won't have to take it apart to put them back on gonna try to wok from the bottom up

Paladin31

Bill I have a stock cam from a 68 std (not HP W31) cam, not worn out, 75,000 miles or so, ran when pulled...and its free
And will throw in a set of pushrods, you only pay for the shipping.

p#400084 36^overlap 250^/264^ .400/.400 (350 ex. OAI)
Won't set any land speed records, but should keep in line with your budget!

Brett

billmerbach

Wow I can't say no to free and it beats one that's had contact with sludge can you pm with pics and shipping details

oldcutlass

That was nice of you Brett.

billmerbach

I say you guys are great people

Paladin31

I know where Bill is at, we've all been there at one time or another. Karma...pass it on.

Thanks Eric [other]

oldstata

x2

billmerbach

You guys are the best I really appreciate this

oldcutlass

Yup, !

billmerbach

Sent you a pm paladin31

Paladin31

Morning Bill, and all. I got in a rut last night after checking the cam I had in mind, it appears I was mistaken on which one I had....

402486 48* 262*/274* .440/.440 (400 AT ex OAI, 350 w/ 269 Pol.)

"appears" to be the one I have after I saw the snout I realized it wasn't the low-est compression model. trying to be accurate, even though its a gift, I wanted you to know what you were getting. Let me know.

billmerbach

So you're saying its better than you thought haha and I'll still take it just get me a shipping quote in rods and cam I hope its under 18 haha

Paladin31

OK, may not be till next week as today & tomorrow are pretty jammed up already, but I will get a pm to you when I get it all packaged & weighed etc... and as to better or not, only direct measurements will prove its merits. So... patience young Jedi...later, Brett

billmerbach

Haha ok...if at all possible are the tubes from USPS flat rate or no

Paladin31

Forgot to post the tracking info for you...until now.
Currently in Warren PA. Happy Holidays Bill.

billmerbach

Haha thanks and since this post is near the to p I'm needing bearings if anyone wants to let some go either mains rods cam etc

Paladin31

For the budget minded try rockauto or good old j. Whitney.

billmerbach

I'm actually talking to crania right now about a whole kit so hopefully all goes well there and I'll be starting to do a little tearing down and putting together

coppercutlass

Why not look into the rebuild kits on ebay. Prices are cheap the rebuild kits are generic but they have new parts.

billmerbach

I would copper but I'm kinda broke and want to either trade or work out a payment deal

oldstata

I wouldn't buy bearings tell you tear down and measure if your crank needs machine work you will need over size bearings

billmerbach

that's true oldstata but if I can get the gaskets and rings I might as well take the bearings too

coppercutlass

Bill if you are broke trying to rebuild an engine will not be cheap anyway you cut it. gasket set, 50 bucks , pistons rings , 65 + , rod bearings 50 , main bearings 75 , cam bearings 35 , oil pump 45 , then there is machining. You need to have a plan of attack and make sure that what you are doing is truly necessary. I wanna see you get on the road but If you are doing a rebuild and saying you need machining Funds will be sucked dry fast. I build my budget builds bit even then I still gotta spend some decent coin. Current build im looking at about 500 in parts and 300 in machining then you add 100 for the heads.

billmerbach

Ik copper thanks for that bit of info there tho really puts things in perspective there. I'll sit down tomorrow and figure up a list of what I need and what I don't need atm

oldstata

There is a lot to these . what if you need to bore it 30 over than the rings are no good,if there stock you might end up spending more in the long run. good thing about gaskets is you don't have to buy a set ,take time and buy some each payday or put money away for the build.

I have jumped the gun and ended up buying things twice

Good luck

coppercutlass

Current build is almost one year into it since I got the short block. You need 2 things time or money. I use up my time lol. Currently there is a member selling a 350 .030 with forged pistons with #6 heads all it needs is gaskets I belive and to be re assembled. I think it was under 600 bucks. You might be better off saving your money until something that needs less work comes up.

billmerbach

well I don't need to boee it 30 over I know that for a fact the only thing that may need to Changs atm and idk for sure haven't opened it up is the beaeings

billmerbach

lol copper I have enough time just no money

coppercutlass

Bill I would run it like a junk yard engine. Fire it up and see what happens. I would slap it together and just run it. The reason for this is one of two things you will make mistakes and it's more expensive to make them with new parts. The second is If you get it running and it runs good you know what it takes to make it run then at that point run it to the ground. core engines are cheap and you need to address many other areas of the car.

oldstata

X2 very well said

billmerbach

Too much sludges and debris from animals making a home in the oil pan have to check it out plus when defrosting cylinder wall I put a small scratch in it so I wanna hone it out

coppercutlass

3 stone hone it. And sludge can be cleaned up with some mineral spirits and some burshes. To have a machine shop clean a block you are looking at about 75 bucks to hone about 150. Slapping it together sounds more fun to me lol. You can usually rent a hone from many auto parts stores. You would be amazed at how well a slapped together engine runs. I slapped a short block together with about 700 buck with cast almost 50 year old flat tops. I polished the rod and main journals with shoe lace and sand paper and oil , I honed it with a 3 stone hone I bought from snap on, Put new bearings , rings , cam , oil pump, I slapped a 1700 dollar top end on a 700 dollar short block . 2 years and 50 + 1/4 mile runs 5000 hard street miles later the damage showed up 4 cracked piston skirts. Good times lol . You can obviously do it cheaper than I did. But the stock stuff will take some abuse.

billmerbach

Cam pushrods and lifters came today thanks Brett very well package might I add

oldcutlass

Lets get this thing together and in the car.

billmerbach

slow down there Eric first I need a gasket set

coppercutlass

Btw. The speed pro gasket set from summit racing is 38 bucks complete vs the felpro 57. Speed pro and felpro are both owned by federal mogul same stuff.