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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 10:24 PM
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6x2 pack for 394 olds

Hello guys!!!
Well playing around with my 394, and I am liking the idea of a 6x2 pack intake for her. Not looking to purchase one right tomorrow but in the near future.
So just putting a bug in your ear, I will be looking for 1and a cross over water outlet.
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 12:10 AM
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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 05:52 AM
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I didn't know a 6x2 intake was made for the 394. Did you mean 3x2? I know those come up from time to time.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 06:27 AM
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6X2's would be a nightmare. Back in the day that stuff was usually for looks only. Best performance with least trouble, single 4 barrel. 394's were a strong engine that was very capable of high horsepower. Stone, Woods, Cook and Tony Nancy ran blown "394's". I remember reading a Tony Nancy interview, he loved that generation of Olds engines but he had to "step up" his game to run with the Mopar's. He tried the "new" 425 Olds but he said the blocks were to "soft." Jmo about the 4 barrel comments.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 06:32 AM
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If it is the J-2, here is one near me on craig's list. Can't tell you much about it. It is not to far away from me if you need someone to look at it for you. A little over an hour.

https://delaware.craigslist.org/pts/...624682634.html

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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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That looks to be a 1958 or earlier engine in the link. Not sure if it would work with 394's.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 08:05 AM
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I don't know much about the earlier engines just saw it was a j-2.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:15 AM
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I didn't know a 6x2 intake was made for the 394. Did you mean 3x2? I know those come up from time to time.
The 6x2 isn't very common but are around.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:16 AM
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6X2's would be a nightmare. Back in the day that stuff was usually for looks only. Best performance with least trouble, single 4 barrel. 394's were a strong engine that was very capable of high horsepower. Stone, Woods, Cook and Tony Nancy ran blown "394's". I remember reading a Tony Nancy interview, he loved that generation of Olds engines but he had to "step up" his game to run with the Mopar's. He tried the "new" 425 Olds but he said the blocks were to "soft." Jmo about the 4 barrel comments.
Want to build these 394 and drop it in a late 30's olds, kinda why I a, leaning towards the 6 pack
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:20 AM
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I don't know much about the earlier engines just saw it was a j-2.
I read the intakes from a 371 to 394 will swap.
Thats a straight 6 pack. 6x2, if you want to call it a log. Its one intake per head with 3 carbs on each
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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That looks to be a 1958 or earlier engine in the link. Not sure if it would work with 394's.
If it is a real J2 it could only be a 57 or 58 which would be a 371. I think I have read the intake will not work with a 394. I know it won't work on a 324.
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Oh? Thought 371/394 parts are interchangeable
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 12:52 PM
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I believe 57-58 371 is a different block and heads than the 59-64 Olds 371/394 block and heads. Notice the valve cover bolts (2 in the valve cover), 59-64 are around the edge of the edge of the valve covers you have. The 57-58 J-2 uses smaller 2 barrels.
I think the newer 371/394 requires an aftermarket 3 X 2's or other carb setups. Maybe someone more familiar with those years can shed more light.
H.A.M.B had a rather long thread on the earlier Olds engines.
Tony at Ross Racing Engines, www.rossracingengines.com (330) 544-4466 should know.

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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 12:58 PM
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Yes was thinking about HAMB. Will have to try
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 01:15 PM
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H.A.M.B. thread was VERY long. I want try to find it again and print it out, printing on both sides of the paper. It covers 1949 to 1964 engines. I'd like to figure out how to save it as a .pdf on my computer.
Good luck.
I had 3 X 2's on an aftermarket intake manifold (probably an Offy) (with big 2 barrels) for a 394 I built many, many years ago.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
H.A.M.B. thread was VERY long. I want try to find it again and print it out, printing on both sides of the paper. It covers 1949 to 1964 engines. I'd like to figure out how to save it as a .pdf on my computer.
Good luck.
I had 3 X 2's on an aftermarket intake manifold (probably an Offy) (with big 2 barrels) for a 394 I built many, many years ago.
Oh sweet. How she run?
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 02:13 PM
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I have a 57 Chevy that I have had a very long time and am finally going to start on later this year. I have a basic engine put together for it and thought three 2's would be cool on it. Speedway has a complete setup for about $1,300 that uses their repro Stromberg 97's. Then I read the Stromberg only makes about 150 CFM which would be 450 cfm wide open. The 650 CFM Holley I have would do a lot better than that. For and old school car nothing looks better than three 2's. I realize Rochester 2 barrels would probably do a lot better.
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Is that a single barrel or 2 barrel with 150 CFM?
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 03:17 PM
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This is the look I am looking for
https://www.google.ca/search?q=394+o...wrXvGyEUYQxstM
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle's77cutlass
Is that a single barrel or 2 barrel with 150 CFM?
It is a 2 barrel similar to the original carb that came on flathead Ford V8's. I imagine the Rochester 2 barrel carbs used by GM flowed considerably more air.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 09:37 PM
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Oh, so I am thinking a 6 pack wont be enough CFM, all singles
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:34 PM
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So, you are thinking SIX carbs ? That "6 pack" terminology keeps me confused. Chrysler marketing called their 3 X 2 option "6 pack".
SIX carbs could be a nightmare to synchronize, after you get the throttle linkage synchronized.
THREE of the big Rochester 2 barrels on an old Offy manifold (if you can find one) would be a good choice. An air cleaner solution would be much easier. Economy from running on the center 2 barrel, POWER when you open the end carbs.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:48 PM
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So, you are thinking SIX carbs ? That "6 pack" terminology keeps me confused. Chrysler marketing called their 3 X 2 option "6 pack".
SIX carbs could be a nightmare to synchronize, after you get the throttle linkage synchronized.
THREE of the big Rochester 2 barrels on an old Offy manifold (if you can find one) would be a good choice. An air cleaner solution would be much easier. Economy from running on the center 2 barrel, POWER when you open the end carbs.
Click on this, see the look I am looking for

https://www.google.ca/search?q=394+o...rXvGyEUYQxstM:

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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 10:55 PM
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Six carb setups LOOK cool.
HOWEVER , as mentioned , tuning them can be a nightmare .
Most of the time , they are set up where all six carbs open at once .
This is great when drag racing because you just push the pedal wide open and hold it there .
For street driving , not so great .
BTW six 150 CFM carbs equal 900 CFM ,

'57 and '58 J-2 manifolds will not fit on '59 thru '64 engines .
Unless your name is McGuyver .

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Old Jul 18, 2018 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
That looks to be a 1958 or earlier engine in the link. Not sure if it would work with 394's.
It would not. 371s only. Deck heights are not compatible.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle's77cutlass
Click on this, see the look I am looking for.
Those are Stromberg 97s. Getting hard to find cores, so expect to pay. And God knows what a manifold will set you back.
Old Jul 19, 2018 | 07:21 AM
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Those are Stromberg 97s. Getting hard to find cores, so expect to pay. And God knows what a manifold will set you back.
Yes I would imagine they are. I do see them pop up on ebay once in a while.
May have to buy from there
Say 48's are 180 CFM, 97's are 155 CFM
Old Jul 19, 2018 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Jones
Six carb setups LOOK cool.
HOWEVER , as mentioned , tuning them can be a nightmare .
Most of the time , they are set up where all six carbs open at once .
This is great when drag racing because you just push the pedal wide open and hold it there .
For street driving , not so great .
BTW six 150 CFM carbs equal 900 CFM ,

'57 and '58 J-2 manifolds will not fit on '59 thru '64 engines .
Unless your name is McGuyver .
900 CFM is enough. lol
Old Jul 19, 2018 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
Those are Stromberg 97s. Getting hard to find cores, so expect to pay. And God knows what a manifold will set you back.
This is cool
https://www.stromberg-97.com/carbure...rburetion.html
Old Jul 19, 2018 | 07:39 AM
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Certainly it is your car to do with as you please. For me there is no way in the world I would try and do a 6x2 setup. As Charlie mentioned they were mostly used for drag racing and all open at one time. Linkage is going to be a nightmare. You can probably build a decent engine for what the setup will cost. If you find any Stromberg 97's that are likely going to be worn out since they are so old. Speedway Motors sells a reproduction that looks like the 97 and is much improved but you are buying 6 of them. I gave up on the 3x2 setup when I found out how little they flow. They look really cool but I don't want to sacrifice that much performance. Then, this is just me. Good luck on your engine.
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The 6x2 looks like a nightmare. Will keep all information at hand.
Thanks
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The sky is the limit when it comes to carbs and intake manifolds. I would start by looking to see what intake manifolds are for sale.
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You could fab up a progressive linkage to make them more streetable. A degree in advanced engineering might help.
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oh forsure, would need to go that route. Just like this

https://www.google.ca/search?q=progr...tPyZEsgMDRuoM:

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Don't forget there are two different 371's...The first being the 57-58 version (including the J-2). The later being the 59-60 version which is the same as the 394 only with a smaller bore. Intakes will not interchange between the two.
I agree with everyone about the six-carb setup...while being very impressive to look at, I've never seen one that was worth a damn on the street. Sure hard to beat a single 4-Barrel or a well tuned 3x2 setup....my two cents
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59/60 intake will interchange with the 394?
Old Jul 19, 2018 | 03:31 PM
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59/60 intake will interchange with the 394?
Yes , all 59 thru 64 intakes will interchange . Be they 394s or 371s .

57 and 58 371 manifolds will not fit 59 thru 64 engines .
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WOW! sure is !
You only have to spend $2,694 for carbs . And then you have to find a manifold .

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WOW! sure is !
You only have to spend $2,694 for carbs . And then you have to find a manifold .
Yes can easily spend 5g just on the fuel system
Old Jul 20, 2018 | 08:33 AM
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Cool & unique for sure.
Huge hassle. I've got 3 carbs on a Johnson outboard and i don't even like messing with that! One 4 barrel is fine for me thanks.



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