Wanted: 1970 Door VIN Tag with Correct Font

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Old July 24th, 2020 | 01:05 PM
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Wanted: 1970 Door VIN Tag with Correct Font

I think I remember seeing somebody on here was getting the repro door tags and filling them out with the correct information and font for a fee. Does anybody know who does this service? I see the blank tags online. Thanks
Old July 24th, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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ECS is excellent.

https://ecs-automotive-concepts.mysh...72-gm-vehicles

I've seen some real crap tags while judging at MCACN. Here's my original 6/72 Fremont tag for my 442 and a new 6/72 Fremont tag for my V Code Supreme built within two weeks of it.



Old July 24th, 2020 | 01:32 PM
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Old July 24th, 2020 | 05:49 PM
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Perfect! Thanks guys.
Old July 24th, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by vette442
ECS is excellent.

https://ecs-automotive-concepts.mysh...72-gm-vehicles

I've seen some real crap tags while judging at MCACN. Here's my original 6/72 Fremont tag for my 442 and a new 6/72 Fremont tag for my V Code Supreme built within two weeks of it.


ECS did that? I always assumed they were better than that. Hmmm. Did they just throw it on there or did they have the original to go by? I always thought "RR" was the standard used for rear weight, not spelling out the entire word.
Old July 25th, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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If I had the original on the car, even as reference, I would not have needed a new sticker. Thanks for spending another $50 for me since I'll need to get a more accurate one made by ECS. (I went through an intermediary - probably on this site - who ordered it via ECS. If I had known he was going to do that I would have ordered directly from them). I also wondered why the weight for the Supreme hardtop was much different than the S hardtop as well.

As far as the tags themselves and fonts go, I've seen enough bright blue homemade typewriter font garbage tags out there to know that these are as close as I've seen to correct in 30+ years with these cars.

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Old July 25th, 2020 | 10:26 AM
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Does anybody have an example of a door vin tag of a 1970 Fremont build vehicle? I do not have an original to reference and I have seen several different layouts depending on year and factory. 1970 should only has the month and year of build in the upper right corner and the vin centered on the bottom with no other data like the vehicle curb weight or the PASSENGER CAR, correct? Should the date format be 6/70, 06/70, 6-70 or 06-70?
Old July 25th, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Does anybody have an example of a door vin tag of a 1970 Fremont build vehicle? I do not have an original to reference and I have seen several different layouts depending on year and factory. 1970 should only has the month and year of build in the upper right corner and the vin centered on the bottom with no other data like the vehicle curb weight or the PASSENGER CAR, correct? Should the date format be 6/70, 06/70, 6-70 or 06-70?
Here’s the original on my Linden built 12/69 SX convertible.


Old July 25th, 2020 | 01:04 PM
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That appears to off center a bit to the left and the date format shows a / instead of a - here is a picture of one I found on here of a 70 Fremont build Cutlass. It is actually off center quite a bit to the right. The distance off the bottom and the date format are consistent with yours. Also it does not use a 0 as a place holder for the first digit in a single digit month. I’m not sure if other factories did or not. I just wanted to make sure I got it right and this one should get me where I need to be. Thank again for all the help.


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I could take a picture of my 1971 sticker on a fremont built car If you would want to see that
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Old July 25th, 2020 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
I could take a picture of my 1971 sticker on a fremont built car If you would want to see that
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Thanks Brian, sure why not. More info can never be a bad thing. Thanks.
Old July 25th, 2020 | 06:48 PM
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Fremont sticker


Old July 25th, 2020 | 07:29 PM
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Interesting. I piddle around doing stuff like this, although it's for G-body Oldses mainly.

So I drafted up an early 70s style decal and it didn't turn out too bad. I think it can almost rival ECS's version.

I decided @vette442 had a good original version to try and duplicate. Only one little issue is I'm not sure exactly what the actual decal dimensions are. Anyone have the specific dimensions of the label? Height and width? My sample draft below.




If you look at the 72 PIM, on page 113 it talks about information to be included from PRIOR to Dec 1, 1971, and Dec 1, 1971 and after. The prior to Dec 1, 71 information is just the build month/year and the VIN. The later than Dec 1 version for model year 1972 looks like the ones above, sort of, but the PIM also shows weird spellings of "REAR" as well as showing, ironically, the example of "06/72" instead of 6/72. I don't know what that's about.


Old July 25th, 2020 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
I even took a shot at doing yours for your 442.



Old July 25th, 2020 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 11971four4two
Thanks Brian yours is consistent with the 70 Fremont tag I posted.
Old July 25th, 2020 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 69HO43
Interesting. I piddle around doing stuff like this, although it's for G-body Oldses mainly.

So I drafted up an early 70s style decal and it didn't turn out too bad. I think it can almost rival ECS's version.

I decided @vette442 had a good original version to try and duplicate. Only one little issue is I'm not sure exactly what the actual decal dimensions are. Anyone have the specific dimensions of the label? Height and width? My sample draft below.




If you look at the 72 PIM, on page 113 it talks about information to be included from PRIOR to Dec 1, 1971, and Dec 1, 1971 and after. The prior to Dec 1, 71 information is just the build month/year and the VIN. The later than Dec 1 version for model year 1972 looks like the ones above, sort of, but the PIM also shows weird spellings of "REAR" as well as showing, ironically, the example of "06/72" instead of 6/72. I don't know what that's about.

That does look good! If you feel like doing one maybe you could buy one of the blank reproduction stickers that are like $10 just to check size and spacing, but I think your color is closer to the original. If you feel like doing a 70 I can send my info. Let me know.
Old July 25th, 2020 | 08:44 PM
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@4speed455 how's this look for you? I can play with the shades of blue so I know it will need tweaking. But it's close.


Old July 25th, 2020 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 69HO43
Anyone have the specific dimensions of the label? Height and width?
I snapped this pic of mine.




And just to add to the database, here it is without the rulers blocking the view. I noticed the date is in a different location on this Lansing tag than it is on the Fremont tag in the post above, and it also has a zero placeholder in the month. Funky looking sixes and nines as well, definitely a different font.


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Old July 25th, 2020 | 09:06 PM
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Thanks. Yeah, Lansing HAD to be weird.
Old July 25th, 2020 | 09:06 PM
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@4speed455 how's this look for you? I can play with the shades of blue so I know it will need tweaking. But it's close.

The blue is off a bit other then that it looks great. I would be happy with the font and spacing. If you can confirm the actual size and nail down the color 8 would definitely be interested in purchasing one. Let me know and thanks.
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Apparently from what's available and the pictures of original ones, it seems the color isn't that big of a standard. I realized weathering and all has an effect, but the blues are all over the place.

I printed these out for a test run. These aren't the vinyl ones that shrink. Or paper that fades. These are mylar film labels with laser printing. Very water resistant on their own. Adhesive is rated to 300 deg F with a very high degree of moisture resistance. I can include a mylar clear overlay rated the same.

If you want em, you can have them. They're test runs anyway. Perfect? No. But better than Joe blow with a typewriter.



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Originally Posted by 69HO43
Apparently from what's available and the pictures of original ones, it seems the color isn't that big of a standard. I realized weathering and all has an effect, but the blues are all over the place.

I printed these out for a test run. These aren't the vinyl ones that shrink. Or paper that fades. These are mylar film labels with laser printing. Very water resistant on their own. Adhesive is rated to 300 deg F with a very high degree of moisture resistance. I can include a mylar clear overlay rated the same.

If you want em, you can have them. They're test runs anyway. Perfect? No. But better than Joe blow with a typewriter.



At that price how can I refuse! Pm coming.
Old August 6th, 2020 | 09:03 PM
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Big thanks to 69HO43, I got the decal in and it looks great!



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