I purchased a 71 442 parts car and do not need these parts
Hood $100
Hood hinges $50
Core support $150
350 2 barrel core motor with 7a heads $400
71 442 bare frame $150
BOP TH400 trans w/ torque converter $150
1970 Cutlass Supreme column shift non tilt $100
GM "A" body bucket seats and coupe rear seat they are not original selling these are cores $250
70 cutlass rear end open type $250
it is all located in Auburndale Florida
Send me a PM if interested

 

Do you have a picture of the hood?

 

I will get some pictures of the items Saturday and post them

 

Do you have a picture of the frame? Whats a BOP? I'd be interested in the TH400. I'm down near Sarasota.

Thanks,

Ben

 

No pics yet but will get some Sat
BOP= Buick, Olds, Pontiac

 

Pictures posted

 

These center caps are specifically from a 77-79 Delta 88 with SS wheel option.

The hood and engine are from a 1972 model. The hood specifically is from one of these:
- Cutlass Supreme (coupe of holiday sedan)
- f85 sedan or
- Cutlass coupe

all with factory AC, that's why there are no faux louvers along the ridges, and no vent perforations at the back. All 1971 hoods had vents at the rear cowl area.

The engine with 7A heads and 2bbl is also from 1972 production (L32 engine RPO). It likely is from an f85, Cutlass or Cutlass S since they came stock with a 2bbl engine that year. CS came with a 4bbl.
The headlight bezels are also from a 1972 model.

On your picture that shows the bottom of the air dam, there appears to be a bent up piece attached to the bottom? I'd be interested in that and the mounting bolts, but not the whole air dam. PM me with a price and some better pics of it? I know it's bent but I can probably straighten it. Should have part number 410410 stamped on it somewhere.

Just some points of clarification to help you expand your market for sale.

 

Thanks they were in the trunk was not sure what they fit

 

I know the vent perforations at the rear of the hood were determined if the car had AC or not. I don't think AC had any bearing on the faux hood louvers.

 

Glenn, you would be correct. The faux louvers were standard for the Cutlass S models only in 72. We continue to see them added to CS or base Cutlass models as either dealer or owner add ons. That requires an entire hood change though because of the attachment methods. I have also seen the louvered hoods incorrectly referred to as '442' hoods. The only '442' louvered hood in 72 has the Oldsmobile emblem on the drivers side front leading edge; that was because the emblem placement for the 442 on the grills required the relocation of the Oldsmobile emblem from the grills.

 

I'm still gonna disagree with you on that one. Other than mine there are way too many AC cars with those "vents" on the rear of the hood. Some I've seen advertised as 1 owner cars and there's no mention of any changes. Sorry, but I think it just might be a misprint in the book that you had copy/pasted before. I just recently saw this 2x on cars that were posted for sale. (1 of which was a 1 owner car all original) but I'm a nobody around here so believe what you want but just sit back and keep your eyes open.. You'll see..I highly doubt everyone with an AC car changed their hoods for no reason...

 

You can disagree with me all you want, I'm not just using cut/paste and making stuff up. My comment is based on fact. Go look at the 72 Cutlass Assembly Manual Section 11, page 158 diagram 410124. It lists hoods by model, and also states which hoods do and don't have vents at the back.

re: 1 owner cars. I've seen plenty of cars advertised as 1 owner too. I've also seen claims that 1 owner cars were 'all original' too, but I've yet to see any proved that way, especially by the 'original owner'. There is a possibility that during the changeover from 71 to 72 production some of the leftover 71 hoods were used on AC cars, so I'm not saying that every car built for 72 will have all 72 parts, same as the 71 model year transition carried forward some of the 1970 fenders.

Here - this is for you - straight from the GM horses mouth. It should help you resolve your disagreement on this, ok?

 

Are the grills for sale? I would be interested.

 

OP isn't responding to messages or PMs for the last 5 days.

 

I am sorry to all who have replied to my ad I have become ill and have been unable to get the info you have all asked for I have a list of who contacted me first and will get with you as soon as I am on my feet again thank you for your patience

 

Message sent.

Sorry to hear about your illness. Get well soon and do not worry about the parts, like Allan said, they are not going anywhere and we can all wait. Family and health always come first.

 

Very sorry to hear you're not well. Get your health back, take your time. These parts aren't going anywhere till you do anyway. Thanks for letting us know.

 

as far as the hood goes. I was talking to the guys at fusick at Carlisle at they were saying that hoods in 71 and 72 were all screwed up. some supremes got s inners and vise versa. something about a strike and once they got back it was a free for all .

 

IMO, the guys you talked to at Carlisle don't know what they're talking about. The strike you're referring to was in September of 1970. By the time 1972 rolled around the only significant issue was that the 1973 model years (colonade style cars) had to be pushed back. They were originally scheduled for release in 1972. Your comment lowers my opinion of the guys at Fusick quite a bit if what you're saying is a direct quote of their conversation.

re: Some got S inners and vice versa? No way. The Assembly line was strictly regulated and controlled to avoid that issue. Only way the cars went to final assembly was with the Build Sheet and workers didn't arbitrarily pick parts they felt like. That was also checked by the 1972 Sentinel Program that screened new cars coming off the line for quality control.

 

I bought a hood pad from them and that's the story the guy at fusick told me that's why its important to measure the holes on the hood to see which pad to use.

 

Has anyone heard back from the OP on anything? I hope he's ok.

 

I have not heard back from OP. Hopefully he just got busy with other things.

Allen, I'm a bit confused. What is a hood "s inner"?

Also, do you know what the difference is between an ASM welded and pierced hood, as mentioned in the Assembly Manual diagram? It seems only the W-29 hood is pierced, with the other hoods all welded.

I had thought they were referring to the hood vents, but after further checking it was determined that the hood ASM welded and pierced notations are not the hood vents.

 

I was replying to bigin1978's post about Fusick's 'knowledgeable' staff. His recollection of their Olds trivia suggests that 1972 hoods (faux louvered vs non louvered) were often mixed up on the assembly line and I countered that it was contrary to the build sheet so not very likely to happen. Other than that I would only guess that the 's inner' refers to the different subframe that holds the faux grills for the S models. There is a special set of retainers and fasteners that hold the faux louvers into the subframe cavity.

I had this conversation a long time ago with Kurt. We both came to the conclusion that all the metal hoods were welded together (upper and lower subframe) whereas the W25 hood was bonded with glue. You're right - the W29 hood is both welded, AND pierced to accept the Oldsmobile script. That was done for the W29 cars because the grill space for identification on those cars sported the 442 numerals. The Olds script on the hood was the only other badging on the car that identified the Olds brand.

All non 442 1972 A bodies had Oldsmobile script on the grills.

That's my best offering for you.

 

Thanks Allen for the information.

The pierced/welded hood ASM had me really confused, especially since they put the notation with an arrow pointing to the hood just past the louver, instead of where the Oldsmobile emblem is mounted.

Wonder why they just did not use "non-pierced" for the non-W29 hood instead of "welded"?

 

Hello,
Have you sold the core support yet?
If not, would you sell just the lower air dam?
Thanks for your time!
Brad

 

Hello I am just now getting back on my feet and am not selling anything until I re-evaluate what my project is needing thanks

 

Glad to hear your back on your feet! No rush, let me know (PM) if your still interested in selling the TH 400 and frame.