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This whole time i thought I had a hardtop but last week I notice something. And now I think it's a Post. What a dumbass. But oh well. I'll take what I can. Can you confirm it because I never had a hardtop to say so. Look at the picture bellow. Focus on the door, the window is broken but an orange post remains making me think for shure it's a Post.
Looks like I might be changing my signature lol
It's a two door sedan. The only cars that were hardtops were Olds Jetfire's and
Buick Skylarks
^^^This. The only Y-body car that Olds ever offered as a true hardtop were the 1963-63 Jetfires.
To further clarify, if the door side glass has a metal frame completely around the window as these to, that is NOT a hardtop. Olds variously called this body style Club Coupes or Sport Coupes over the years.
Why did they call the other ones Holiday Coupes?
Why did they call them F-85s, Starfires, Jetfires, Deltas, or 98s?
Why did they call other ones Galaxies, Falcons, Electras, Grand AMs, Invictas, Biscaynes, Impalas, Caprices, Bel Airs, Catalinas, Apollos, Ωmegas, Venturas, LeSabres, Newports, Polaras, Monacos, etc?
Why do they call them Yarises, Sephias, and Souls now?
Originally Posted by RocketRonnie
The post adds for structure wouldn't you say?
Yes. That's why they're more popular for drag racing.
Yes. That's why they're more popular for drag racing.
- Eric
Well, the real reason is that they are supposed to be lighter, though in reality the weight difference is almost negligible. When equipped exactly the same, the weight difference between a Sport Coupe and Holiday Coupe runs around 25-50 lbs. The real weight differences were due to differences in standard equipment, sound deadening, trim, seats, etc. The added stiffness, at least for a drag car, is also almost negligible, though the effect on the unibody Y-body cars is probably greater than on the 64-up full frame cars.
Keep in mind that there are rubber mounts between the body and the frame on the 64-up cars. Any stiffness benefit from the post body gets lost in deflecting the rubber. If the rubber mounts were all replaced with solid metal, then the difference would be more pronounced. This is why I pointed out that the stiffness difference is more meaningful in the unibody cars.
A properly designed roll cage is what really stiffens most drag cars.
I guess when thinking about rigidity, I think too much about older European cars and discussions there over the decades, where people get all wrapped up in small differences between models, and go a bit over the top with additional bracing.
I worked at a wrecking yard for several years many moons ago. We would pick cars up with large forklifts and move then around. Often we would pick them up through the windshield. If it was a Post car of any brand you did not want to do that as the roof would just peel off. Hardtop cars you could pick them up that way. they had more structure to them.
I worked at a wrecking yard for several years many moons ago. We would pick cars up with large forklifts and move then around. Often we would pick them up through the windshield. If it was a Post car of any brand you did not want to do that as the roof would just peel off. Hardtop cars you could pick them up that way. they had more structure to them.
That's interesting, thanks for the post.
I'm still keeping her!!!
Thanks Joe and Eric. That helps me alot.
Last edited by RocketRonnie; April 23rd, 2017 at 06:12 PM.
April 23rd, 2017, 12:46 AM
