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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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1969 Grand Prix factory stick

For sale: 1969 Grand Prix with the following equipment: numbers matching WX code 400-4, factory 3 spd M13 Dearborn with Hurst shifter, rear wind defroster, AM/FM radio, PS, PB, PW, Rally II wheels and AC. Car was special ordered with Castillion Bronze paint, no vinyl top, gold vinyl interior. Car is PHS doc'd to confirm the above.

Currently registered and insured, clean title in my name, runs and drives well, I drove it on July 1st. Needs restored, IMO should have new lwr qtrs. and the pass frt floor pan patched/replaced. The rest of the floors are good, trunk floor looks good as well. Email to mdh157@hotmail.com and put "1969 Grand Prix" on the subject line.

$6000 firm.






http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/4508772894.html

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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:03 AM
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I have always like those cars. I think they are awesome looking. You are fortunate it doesn't have a vinyl top and all the rust that goes with it. What an unusual car with the 3-speed. I bet there weren't a dozen made with a 3-speed. Your price seems very reasonable. Good luck with your sale.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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there were 277 made with the 400/3 speed according to what i have found........out of 112,485 cars made 99.1% were automatics, the other .9% were 3 or 4 speeds.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:11 AM
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Pretty rare to find a std in a G Prix. A 4 speed would be an easy swap. Good luck with your sale.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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I may do a 4 spd swap if it doesn't sell.......and if you don't mind, I will be happy to pick your brain. I was hoping for a straight bolt in but i suppose that is too much to ask for. Would drop an M20 or 21 in there, that is what the 4 spd cars had.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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All you need I believe is a trans and shifter.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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nice........the hardest part is handing the $$ over for the trans
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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I certainly would keep the 3-speed and shifter in storage if I did this. As much as I like 4 speeds, I probably would not change it since it is so rare. Out of 277, it is probably the only survivor. RARE
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
Out of 277, it is probably the only survivor. RARE
They made fewer of my car but a lot more than one survive.
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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 01:25 PM
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Thanks for the info Diego........what car do you own?

I have seen pics of 2 other 3 speed cars that are still in existence, one is green, the other maroon.

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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Great car!

If that was a '71, I wouldn't be able to get over to your house fast enough - I'm partial to the styling on the '71-'72s. The few '71 4 speeds on the market always seem to be missing their original engines.

Good luck with the sale.

Terry

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Old Jul 5, 2014 | 01:52 PM
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they were prob gutted to put the drivetrain into a goat
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Thanks for the info Diego........what car do you own?
I have an Olds but am a Pontiac guy. I'm familiar with these cars.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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I see......so you understand the WX code thing completely then
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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I'm not up on engine codes, but I suspect that translates to a 400/350 MT block.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vette442
Great car!

If that was a '71, I wouldn't be able to get over to your house fast enough - I'm partial to the styling on the '71-'72s. The few '71 4 speeds on the market always seem to be missing their original engines.

Good luck with the sale.

Terry
Ditto on a great car & good luck with the sale.

Always liked the 69-72 GP's.

Some day I wanna take a 71/2 & do it up with a 69/70 style front end.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
I'm not up on engine codes, but I suspect that translates to a 400/350 MT block.
Exactly......there is a guy who thinks it is fake because there is no transmission listed on the PHS dealer invoice......he thinks the 3 spd is supp to be there as an option even though it is not an option.

thank you Pack Rat!
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePackRat
Ditto on a great car & good luck with the sale.

Always liked the 69-72 GP's.

Some day I wanna take a 71/2 & do it up with a 69/70 style front end.
someone had a 71-2 at Carlisle last year for sale, white or blue, converted to a convertible........it was one of the nicest cars I have ever seen.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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Is it someone on Performance Years? Cuz I'd hope no one there would be that dumb.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 07:05 PM
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My '69 G.P. is a Model J. It has only 9k. I think they call it Burnished Brown metallic (green if sunny/brown if cloudy) with white pearl interior. I remember working at the gas station and filling this car up in the 80's.
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mdh157
someone had a 71-2 at Carlisle last year for sale, white or blue, converted to a convertible........it was one of the nicest cars I have ever seen.
This one? I like this one a lot and have had this pic on my website for several years.

Old Jul 5, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Diego
Is it someone on Performance Years? Cuz I'd hope no one there would be that dumb.
Just some regular guy
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 07:36 PM
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that must be it, vette.....
Old Jul 5, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete Kaczmarski
My '69 G.P. is a Model J. It has only 9k. I think they call it Burnished Brown metallic (green if sunny/brown if cloudy) with white pearl interior. I remember working at the gas station and filling this car up in the 80's.
I believe Burnished Brown was Chevy's name. Pontiac called it Expresso Brown.

It's about as nice as brown gets.
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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sale pending.........
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 11:16 AM
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WX is 69 GP 400, Manual, 4bbl, 10.25:1, 067 cam, large valve heads (69 Pontiac Service Manual).
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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Greatest looking Pontiacs the 69-72 Grand Prix . Used to see a lot of 71-72s around in the late 80s and then they all disappeared. Saw a 69 car in a junkyard with SSJ 428 badges go to the crusher around 1989. No motor and trans. Light green with dark green interior.
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vistacruiser67
Greatest looking Pontiacs the 69-72 Grand Prix . Used to see a lot of 71-72s around in the late 80s and then they all disappeared. Saw a 69 car in a junkyard with SSJ 428 badges go to the crusher around 1989. No motor and trans. Light green with dark green interior.
I bet that engine and tranny are still living in a GTO somewhere. At that time it was just an old 20-year old car that nobody wanted. Unfortunate.
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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SSJs were normally white or black with gold two-toning. Several were "other" colors.
Old Jul 9, 2014 | 06:58 PM
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I know where there is a highly optioned '69 428 HO car, limelight grn/vinyl top/dark grn interior, window sticker, AT........sitting in storage. Super straight car, owner is not willing to sell right now. I tried last July, he said he'd let me know.........
Old Jul 10, 2014 | 05:22 AM
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SSJ 428 Grand Prix to the crusher circa 1989

We hope but doubtful. A good Pontiac enthusiast or anybody appreciative of muscle cars period wouldn't send a good rolling chassis to the crusher even then. The rear end was still under it and from what I read SSJs had 3.55 rear ends? More than likely somebody that put the engine in something else and blew the engine. Around 5 years earlier I overheard a story in high school home room about somebody pulling a 428 out of a late 60s Grand Prix and putting it in a 73 Grand Prix and being disappointed it only ran 17 seconds. I remembered that story when I saw this car in 1989 and wondered if it was the same car but that would have been along time for something to be sitting around and the 69 SSJ looked in great condition and wasn't weathered. We all see how many 73-77 Colonades went to the crusher. For such high production cars the Colonades seemed to get to the crusher the most per capita of production numbers. Probably less than them around now that 72 and earlier cars. In this vein of a lost 69 SSJ I'm also reminded of a burgundy 70 Cultass SX I saw in that same junkyard in those days shortly after somebody had put a 305 Chevy engine in it!!! I guy working on the SX said it came in with a 350 Olds short block in it and some boy wanted a Chevy motor in it. Some time afterwards I passed this Cutlass SX stalled on the road in my black 72 Cutlass town sedan 4dr. I do know the original 455 out of that SX survived and is still running in it's second 66 Cutlass.


Originally Posted by redoldsman
I bet that engine and tranny are still living in a GTO somewhere. At that time it was just an old 20-year old car that nobody wanted. Unfortunate.

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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 08:09 AM
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sale fell through.....car still avail
Old Aug 30, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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price reduced to $5500.........unfortunately I cannot lower shipping cost for those who need to have it shipped.

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