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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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69 442 w30

How can I fine out if this is a W30? Will vin # help?
Old Jan 18, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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There isn't much you can do to prove it's a W30 unless it was sold in Canada or you have a window sticker. This is from 442.com:

1969:

Authentication:
  • VIN begins .
  • Must be a Lansing built car. "M" in the VIN tag
  • Should have one of the following rear end codes with the VIN on the rear. a. TM = 3.42:1 b. TO = 3.91:1 c. TY = 4.33:1
  • Should have the close ratio 4 spd. code XF with VIN on the transmission.
  • Red fenderwells with holes for Ram Air tubes.
  • Cylinder Heads should be "D" code.
  • Manual Disc Brakes ONLY! (ALL 4 spd.'s have the 328 degree cam).
  • Distributor # 1111933 (if original).
  • Carb # 7049254 (if original).
  • All used "D" heads.
  • Used under the bumper scoops feeding the 400 CID engine.
  • Special front fender braces that run from the front bottom edge of the fender (where I believe they are rubber mounted), up to the radiator support. I'm sure the W-machines had the special braces to clear the OAI hoses. A '69 W30 forgery would probably have missing or incorrectly altered braces.
Old Jan 18, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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Don't forget to post up some pics.
Especially the areas Mike spoke of.
Old Jan 18, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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The majority had 4 speeds, but if its equipped with an automatic there should be a tag on the passengerside with an OW painted on it and stamped into it. Although they are reproducing the tags now, so even that's not a for sure.


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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 08:19 PM
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Welcome! Definitely post some pics when you get a chance.
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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As Mike pointed out, without documentation (window sticker or build sheet) there's no way to prove the car is a real W-30. There's 's nothing in the VIN or cowl tag. Everything that makes the car a W-30 (including the OW tag on the automatic trans) can be bolted onto any 442. OW tags are available on ebay. There are probably more W-30s on the road now than in 1969.

If the car is unrestored and the the correct parts look like they've been on the car since it was born, it's likely real. If the car is a fresh body off resto with every option in the Olds catalog, be wary.
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