Hi Everyone
Hi Everyone
I'm new here and I love my Oldsmobiles. Hopefully I won't be scorned because mine are 'new'! I currently have 3, a '95 88 Royale that my wife drives, a '94 Ninety Eight Regency Elite (rare supercharged model) and a '92 88 Royale LS that my 17 year old daughter drives.
I am particularly fond of Ninety Eights, I have had 6 of the 1991 and newer models. A 1991 Touring Sedan, and a 1993 Supercharged Touring Sedan that I fixed up and drove two years before some gangbanger stole it and burned it for some sick initiation ritual.
I've had some old Oldsmobiles over the years too, a '61 Super 88, a '84 Jetstar I, and a '78 88 Royale with one of GM's great ideas, the 231 V6.
I'd include some pictures of my Ninety Eight, but I see I can't. Maybe after I'm here a while?
Mike
I am particularly fond of Ninety Eights, I have had 6 of the 1991 and newer models. A 1991 Touring Sedan, and a 1993 Supercharged Touring Sedan that I fixed up and drove two years before some gangbanger stole it and burned it for some sick initiation ritual.
I've had some old Oldsmobiles over the years too, a '61 Super 88, a '84 Jetstar I, and a '78 88 Royale with one of GM's great ideas, the 231 V6.
I'd include some pictures of my Ninety Eight, but I see I can't. Maybe after I'm here a while?
Mike
1991-96 Ninety Eights are some of my favorite Oldsmobiles though I've never owned one myself, they're a little hard to find here. After the 85-90 models, the 91 was a breath of fresh air styling-wise- first time a Ninety Eight had LOOKED like a Ninety Eight since the last RWD in 1984. Then the supercharged ones let them PERFORM like a Ninety Eight. IMHO the blower should have been standard on all Ninety Eights and Bravadas, just to distinguish them as being heirs apparent to the Oldsmobile performance legacy.
Those 85-90 cars - eesh. Just never could warm up to their appearance. Sorry if you own one. I couldn't.
Did they catch that gang punk?
Those 85-90 cars - eesh. Just never could warm up to their appearance. Sorry if you own one. I couldn't.
Did they catch that gang punk?
Welcome aboard! I do like those Touring Sedans.
I had a '90 Trofeo that would have been even more impressive than it was if it came with the supercharger for the 3800.
I presume you mean a '64 Jetstar 1!
I had a '90 Trofeo that would have been even more impressive than it was if it came with the supercharger for the 3800.
I presume you mean a '64 Jetstar 1!
Welcome! Any Olds is a good olds!
I've had two 72 Cutty's - back in the day - an 85 Cutty, an 85 Delta 88, an 85 Delta Royale Broughm, all bought used and cheap of course because I needed a car, but I loved them all! I traded in my 85 Delta in 2001 when they were offering $2500 on any trade in after 9/11, and I financed for the first time in my life, a 1998 Intrigue! My everyday driver now is a 2001 Intrigue. I don't know what I'll drive when the Intrigue goes since they stopped making Olds. I think that was the downfall of General Motors! My sister is still driving a 1985 Delta.... it's her fault I got hooked on Olds!!
Took my drivers test in my brother-in-laws 72 Cutlass. Parallel parked that baby first time!
The 72 Cutlass is my favorite, but there's nothing like the ride of the big 88's and 98's!!
Installment I
Thank you for the warm welcome, but I didn't expect anything less!
To answer some of your questions... yes I did mean a '64 Jetstar I, must have been a typo there!
The Ninety Eight I currently have is probably the nicest one I've ever had. I'll have had it 2 years in October. It's the Champaigne color everyone refers to (I don't know the real name of the color) with the tan leather interior. It had 56K on it, one elderly owner. It was hit in the right front but whoever did the repairs did a nice job and you don't even know it was hit unless you were told. All options but CD, moonroof, and heated seats (don't see heated seats much here in New Mexico!).
To answer some of your questions... yes I did mean a '64 Jetstar I, must have been a typo there!
The Ninety Eight I currently have is probably the nicest one I've ever had. I'll have had it 2 years in October. It's the Champaigne color everyone refers to (I don't know the real name of the color) with the tan leather interior. It had 56K on it, one elderly owner. It was hit in the right front but whoever did the repairs did a nice job and you don't even know it was hit unless you were told. All options but CD, moonroof, and heated seats (don't see heated seats much here in New Mexico!).
Installment II
(I figure I may as well break this long winded post down into installments to get my quota in, right?)
It sat quite a while before I bought it. Original hoses, tires, etc., so I went through all of that stuff to make it a daily driver. Alll was good until this April, as I rolled up to a stop sign, and the trans was downshifting, it downshifted so hard into first that it killed the engine. Not good. It had 130K on it by this point.
Trans shop said 1st gear clutch pack was bad, and wanted $2800 to repair it. A little bit more than what I wanted to spend. I found a trans builder out of Phoenix on e-bay, and bought a rebuilt unit from him. He does the mods on the 4T60E's to keep them from what leads them to their demise in stock form. I also had him put in a TransGo shift kit. The car has a stock external cooler. I do most of my own work, but this job is too much for me so my mechanic installed it for me for $400. So for about $1500, I have a much better trans with a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. I have almost 10K on it now with no problems.
Trannys are the big problems with these FWD big Oldsmobiles. This is the third one I've had go out. And I service them regularly, and don't drive them hard. But I had a '91 Touring Sedan with almost 300K on it with the original trans, so who knows.
It sat quite a while before I bought it. Original hoses, tires, etc., so I went through all of that stuff to make it a daily driver. Alll was good until this April, as I rolled up to a stop sign, and the trans was downshifting, it downshifted so hard into first that it killed the engine. Not good. It had 130K on it by this point.
Trans shop said 1st gear clutch pack was bad, and wanted $2800 to repair it. A little bit more than what I wanted to spend. I found a trans builder out of Phoenix on e-bay, and bought a rebuilt unit from him. He does the mods on the 4T60E's to keep them from what leads them to their demise in stock form. I also had him put in a TransGo shift kit. The car has a stock external cooler. I do most of my own work, but this job is too much for me so my mechanic installed it for me for $400. So for about $1500, I have a much better trans with a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. I have almost 10K on it now with no problems.
Trannys are the big problems with these FWD big Oldsmobiles. This is the third one I've had go out. And I service them regularly, and don't drive them hard. But I had a '91 Touring Sedan with almost 300K on it with the original trans, so who knows.
Last edited by touringsedan; Sep 14, 2009 at 08:48 PM.
Installment III
As far as the supercharged 3800's this is the second one. The first one (93 Ninety Eight Touring Sedan) didn't run when I bought it. The balancer went out and the person kept driving it, thus trashing the supercharger, alternator, and water pump before it laid down.
I replaced the balancer and bought a rebuilt supercharger from gmusedparts.com. This guy is great to deal with. He rebuilds Eaton superchargers for $400, exchange, with a lifetime warranty. Comes with GM gasket set.
This car ran great and had all the options. I had it almost two years, put almost 100K on it, and some little puke stole it out of my driveway for a joy ride, and set it on fire when he was done.
The supercharged 94 I'm driving now had a noisy supercharger on it when I got it. I drove it until I couldn't stand the sound any more, and bought another refurbished unit for it too. It has been on for about 90k now, and no problems.
The s/c motors have a lot of power and torque, and get relatively good mileage. Mine will get about 28-29 on the highway and I do a lot of highway driving. I don't think they are any more troublesome than the normally aspirated 3800's. V8 power with V6 economy. This big boat will surprise Mustangs on occasion. I have a dual outlet turbo muffler on it, so it does have a bit of a growl!
Hopefully the pictures of my driver will post.
Mike
I replaced the balancer and bought a rebuilt supercharger from gmusedparts.com. This guy is great to deal with. He rebuilds Eaton superchargers for $400, exchange, with a lifetime warranty. Comes with GM gasket set.
This car ran great and had all the options. I had it almost two years, put almost 100K on it, and some little puke stole it out of my driveway for a joy ride, and set it on fire when he was done.
The supercharged 94 I'm driving now had a noisy supercharger on it when I got it. I drove it until I couldn't stand the sound any more, and bought another refurbished unit for it too. It has been on for about 90k now, and no problems.
The s/c motors have a lot of power and torque, and get relatively good mileage. Mine will get about 28-29 on the highway and I do a lot of highway driving. I don't think they are any more troublesome than the normally aspirated 3800's. V8 power with V6 economy. This big boat will surprise Mustangs on occasion. I have a dual outlet turbo muffler on it, so it does have a bit of a growl!
Hopefully the pictures of my driver will post.
Mike
Installment IV
Since that went so well, here's the pictures of the '93 Touring Sedan that was stolen. Before and after. This car had sat under a huge cottonwood tree for 3 years. I paid $800 for it, and put about $1200 in it. My son and I buffed the paint out, and it looked like new. Too bad it was stolen... those plastic fenders don't hold up well under intense heat.
That carnage would have justified an ***-kicking, if not a castration. Did they catch him?
Wish those cars weren't so hard to find here. The ones that ARE here are generally pretty rough, and the big wheels crowd has discovered them too.
Wish those cars weren't so hard to find here. The ones that ARE here are generally pretty rough, and the big wheels crowd has discovered them too.
Of course, cowards are never caught. I came out of the house just to see taillights. By the time I grabbed the keys to another car, my glasses and cell phone, he was long gone. This happened at 4:45 AM. They found it burning out on the mesa west of town at 3 PM.
I see a few of the Ninety Eights on the road here still. Like you said, most are rough. The sun is very hard on paint and interiors here. It destroys clearcoat, headliners, and the top of the rear seat along with the package shelf as a rule. This one has always been garaged, which is why it is so nice. I don't know at this late in the game if I could ever find another one. There are a lot of old people here because of the climate, so I keep my eyes peeled. You never know!
I see a few of the Ninety Eights on the road here still. Like you said, most are rough. The sun is very hard on paint and interiors here. It destroys clearcoat, headliners, and the top of the rear seat along with the package shelf as a rule. This one has always been garaged, which is why it is so nice. I don't know at this late in the game if I could ever find another one. There are a lot of old people here because of the climate, so I keep my eyes peeled. You never know!
nice 94
Thats a beautiful 94 and great colors. hard to find that nice anymore. Thanks for the pics on your cars. The 93 , I wonder how he got it running with the passkey system, I thought they were pretty safe. I have a 93 ts similar to yours, they must have made a couple of em. I also just bought a 91 elite just because they're getting so scarce. I did a vin check on 91-96 ninety eights and you have one of 1386 s/c 94's out of 26634 built. and your 93 was one of 1270 s/c t/s's out of 1881 93 t/s's, 20691 total 93/s. If you find em bring em home.
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