New from Ohio
#1
New from Ohio
Greetings all,
Brand new to the forum and to Oldsmobile's, not new to cars and have completed a previous 1972 Buick Skylark for myself, as well as assisted a close friends frame off restoration with his big block 4 speed 1972 Buick Skylark. Unfortunately I had to sell my Buick, but luck would have it I had enough left over to start again. Some details about my new project..
1968 Cutlass "S" post
250 L6
EDIT: Jetaway
Sapphire Blue if I researched my paint code correctly
Buckets with no console
no a/c, radio delete (have to reinstall panel)
4 wheel power drum
Assembled in Canada
And receipts from the first owner from 1968-2009.
The car started going down the path of "Joe Dirt" and was fitted with a stinkbug style stance, wheels too wide for the car, large speakers in the trunk and crazy looking medieval style pedal covers.. Rust is present in common areas but not enough to scare me away for the price, luckily the floors, roof, post, hood, glass, and frame are fantastic. Plans for the restoration is disassemble everything (frame off) clean, and refurbish to return everything back to stock with the exception of a manual transmission and front disk brakes. I may have a little fun with the straight 6 as well, nothing in the way of crazy power adders but I have always been curious what a few bolt ons and some proper planning can achieve. My goal is not for anything record breaking.. just a nice clean car to enjoy.
Pictures to follow soon!
Justin
Brand new to the forum and to Oldsmobile's, not new to cars and have completed a previous 1972 Buick Skylark for myself, as well as assisted a close friends frame off restoration with his big block 4 speed 1972 Buick Skylark. Unfortunately I had to sell my Buick, but luck would have it I had enough left over to start again. Some details about my new project..
1968 Cutlass "S" post
250 L6
EDIT: Jetaway
Sapphire Blue if I researched my paint code correctly
Buckets with no console
no a/c, radio delete (have to reinstall panel)
4 wheel power drum
Assembled in Canada
And receipts from the first owner from 1968-2009.
The car started going down the path of "Joe Dirt" and was fitted with a stinkbug style stance, wheels too wide for the car, large speakers in the trunk and crazy looking medieval style pedal covers.. Rust is present in common areas but not enough to scare me away for the price, luckily the floors, roof, post, hood, glass, and frame are fantastic. Plans for the restoration is disassemble everything (frame off) clean, and refurbish to return everything back to stock with the exception of a manual transmission and front disk brakes. I may have a little fun with the straight 6 as well, nothing in the way of crazy power adders but I have always been curious what a few bolt ons and some proper planning can achieve. My goal is not for anything record breaking.. just a nice clean car to enjoy.
Pictures to follow soon!
Justin
Last edited by JPT; November 24th, 2015 at 05:18 PM.
#4
Very unusual, I would think.
Actually, Powerglide is a Chevy term for their two-speed automatic. Olds called its two-speed "Jetaway" (Buick called their version, which was the same as Olds, the "Super Turbine 300", while Pontiac, which also used it, called it simply "Automatic"), and the two transmissions have nothing in common in terms of parts.
True Oldsmobile people cringe when they hear any part of an Oldsmobile referred to by a Chevy name.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Super_Turbine_300
Actually, Powerglide is a Chevy term for their two-speed automatic. Olds called its two-speed "Jetaway" (Buick called their version, which was the same as Olds, the "Super Turbine 300", while Pontiac, which also used it, called it simply "Automatic"), and the two transmissions have nothing in common in terms of parts.
True Oldsmobile people cringe when they hear any part of an Oldsmobile referred to by a Chevy name.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Super_Turbine_300
#5
Thanks for the welcome fellas!
Should it be something else? That was just what I found with some googlin.
Thanks for the heads up, I had no clue about that. Learning has occurred haha.
Should it be something else? That was just what I found with some googlin.
Actually, Powerglide is a Chevy term for their two-speed automatic. Olds called its two-speed "Jetaway" (Buick called their version, which was the same as Olds, the "Super Turbine 300", while Pontiac, which also used it, called it simply "Automatic"), and the two transmissions have nothing in common in terms of parts.
True Oldsmobile people cringe when they hear any part of an Oldsmobile referred to by a Chevy name.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Super_Turbine_300
True Oldsmobile people cringe when they hear any part of an Oldsmobile referred to by a Chevy name.
http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Super_Turbine_300
#6
No. The 250 cubic-inch "Actionline 6" L6 was offered as the base engine in the "F-85 Six" and "Cutlass Six" lines that year. But production of these vehicles was not very high compared to the V-8 lines, so what I was saying is that it was unusual to find one of those cars new and even more unusual to find one today. I'm guessing that a certain fraction of L-6 Cutlasses to survive to today have had their engines replaced with V-8s. But the full line of body styles, including convertibles, was offered in the Cutlass Six line.
But what do you mean when you say you were googling? Do you not know for sure what the engine is? Have you not seen the car?
But what do you mean when you say you were googling? Do you not know for sure what the engine is? Have you not seen the car?
#7
No. The 250 cubic-inch "Actionline 6" L6 was offered as the base engine in the "F-85 Six" and "Cutlass Six" lines that year. But production of these vehicles was not very high compared to the V-8 lines, so what I was saying is that it was unusual to find one of those cars new and even more unusual to find one today. I'm guessing that a certain fraction of L-6 Cutlasses to survive to today have had their engines replaced with V-8s. But the full line of body styles, including convertibles, was offered in the Cutlass Six line.
But what do you mean when you say you were googling? Do you not know for sure what the engine is? Have you not seen the car?
But what do you mean when you say you were googling? Do you not know for sure what the engine is? Have you not seen the car?
By googling I meant that I have been trying to find what information I could on the vehicle from the VIN. The internet is a great tool, but I would be greatly appreciative if anyone can correct my internet findings with facts. The car is in my possession and in the garage at this time, not a "wishful" project.
Phone is being funny with the pictures.. this evening on the home computer I can get some photos up and see what you all think.
#10
What is the VIN? Keep in mind that VINs in those days, except for the assembly plant, didn't tell you much more than you can tell just by looking at the car.
Also, post a clear photo of the cowl tag, which is a credit card-sized plate under the hood attached to the firewall on the driver's side. It will have code numbers and so forth on it that will give a little more information about what options the car had when it left the factory.
Also, post a clear photo of the cowl tag, which is a credit card-sized plate under the hood attached to the firewall on the driver's side. It will have code numbers and so forth on it that will give a little more information about what options the car had when it left the factory.
Last edited by jaunty75; September 23rd, 2015 at 10:04 AM.
#12
What is the VIN? Keep in mind that VINs in those days, except for the assembly plant, didn't tell you much more than you can tell just by looking at the car.
Also, post a clear photo of the cowl tag, which is a credit card-sized plate under the hood attached to the firewall on the driver's side. It will have code numbers and so forth on it that will give a little more information about what options the car had when it left the factory.
Also, post a clear photo of the cowl tag, which is a credit card-sized plate under the hood attached to the firewall on the driver's side. It will have code numbers and so forth on it that will give a little more information about what options the car had when it left the factory.
3357781117843
And some pics!
Last edited by JPT; September 23rd, 2015 at 02:44 PM.
#13
Thanks for the welcome! I hope the 6 goes as planned, I would be very content if I could have a peppy and highway friendly motor. Here is my last car and my buddies that him and I built. Mine is the closer, lighter green of the 2.
#15
35 = Cutlass L6
77 = Sport Coupe
8 = 1968 model year
1 = Oshawa, Canada assembly plant
117843 = sequential build number
What rear axle does this car have? It should be a Chevy axle, not a Type O.
#16
The cowl tag info, if my source is correct, has 943 = blue interior and the D D paint code indicating sapphire blue upper and lower body color. But you knew all this by looking at the car!
#17
Sure is, and a very, very well built one.
Thanks for the info! The rear axle is coated in grease and I could not read the code on quick glance but I snapped a picture.
Very true! But since the car has changed hands a few times and lived a long life, I enjoy making sure what I am seeing is actually supposed to be that way haha
Very true! But since the car has changed hands a few times and lived a long life, I enjoy making sure what I am seeing is actually supposed to be that way haha
Last edited by JPT; September 23rd, 2015 at 07:40 PM.
#18
Quick question on production numbers for this particular vehicle.. have used the search function and so far have not come up with a clear answer.
Given the information with the cowl tag and VIN of the car, and using this link..
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/d...arID=15360&i=2
Is it safe to believe there were 1,181 built in Canada and the US that year? Or is that link even an accurate source given it was built out of the continental US and it does not include foreign numbers? Or am I looking at the wrong number entirely..
Another question.. Mine has the plastic inner fender wells, was this a common thing?
The reason behind my questioning is to only provide an accurate history of the car, curiosity has gotten the better of me.
Given the information with the cowl tag and VIN of the car, and using this link..
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/d...arID=15360&i=2
Is it safe to believe there were 1,181 built in Canada and the US that year? Or is that link even an accurate source given it was built out of the continental US and it does not include foreign numbers? Or am I looking at the wrong number entirely..
Another question.. Mine has the plastic inner fender wells, was this a common thing?
The reason behind my questioning is to only provide an accurate history of the car, curiosity has gotten the better of me.
Last edited by JPT; October 23rd, 2015 at 08:37 AM.
#20
On an unfortunate note, my 'rust free' frame has two pretty sizable holes on both sides where the steering box mounts. Peeking inside that area showed it is also pretty sad and flaking rust was heavily forming on the walls. As luck would have it, a neighbor of a good friend was parting out a 69 so I was able to score another frame, full disk brake setup, and a donor fender that I can salvage the heel and brace from. The newly acquired frame appears to be in great shape and little surface rust, but then again I have been wrong before.
#21
My D88 supposedly spent some time in a transportation museum around Zanesville back in the 80s. Still trying to track down that part of it's life. Familiar with any place like that? Oh, and welcome to the forum!
#22
Thank you for the welcome!
#24
Thanks! I've been a bit busy lately, I'll start a build thread when it's time and I gather some momentum. But for now I am still gathering parts and taking it slow. The one thing you can't see in the photo is the interior is all gutted and the smell of rat droppings are no longer present.
Last edited by JPT; October 23rd, 2015 at 03:50 PM.
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