New To Forum - '72 Cutlass
October 2nd, 2018, 12:46 PM
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New To Forum - '72 Cutlass
Hi all,
New to the forum, appreciate the add! Just purchased my '72 at the Barrett Jackson Auction in Vegas... Looking forward to gathering a bunch on info here! From Calgary Canada...
New to the forum, appreciate the add! Just purchased my '72 at the Barrett Jackson Auction in Vegas... Looking forward to gathering a bunch on info here! From Calgary Canada...
October 2nd, 2018, 01:46 PM
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Thanks Wayne... She is gonna take about 2 or 3 weeks to arrive (going to be the longest 2 or 3 weeks of my life - lol), will be sure to add new info and pictures once it arrives. I am sure I am going to be seeking some (lots) of information as well, so looking forward to connecting.
October 2nd, 2018, 03:52 PM
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October 2nd, 2018, 08:43 PM
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Hi everyone... Of course, I received the VIN for the '72, but it seems as though when I google it, not a ton on info comes up (just when the vehicle has been up for sale) and also had a site suggest that I was missing some digits. I have 13 digits and I am wondering if maybe the number I am researching is not actually the VIN. I am curious where it was produced and other info, but maybe I will actually find that out by using the cowl tag? First of many Q's... Hope you guys don't mind.
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October 3rd, 2018, 07:02 AM
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Yes the V.I.N. should be 13 Digits.
Looking on Barrett-Jacksons website your V.I.N. # should be: 3G87H2Z141548
Here below is your V.I.N. # Decoded:
3G87H2Z141548Year:1972Division:OldsmobileSeries:Cutlass SBody:Holiday Hardtop (2 door)Engine:350 (5.7) V8 2BBLPlant:Fremont, CaliforniaSerial Number:141548
Looking on Barrett-Jacksons website your V.I.N. # should be: 3G87H2Z141548
Here below is your V.I.N. # Decoded:
3G87H2Z141548Year:1972Division:OldsmobileSeries:Cutlass SBody:Holiday Hardtop (2 door)Engine:350 (5.7) V8 2BBLPlant:Fremont, CaliforniaSerial Number:141548
October 3rd, 2018, 07:05 AM
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Yes the V.I.N. should be 13 Digits.
Looking on Barrett-Jacksons website your V.I.N. # should be: 3G87H2Z141548
Here below is your V.I.N. # Decoded:
3G87H2Z141548Year:1972Division:OldsmobileSeries:Cutlass SBody:Holiday Hardtop (2 door)Engine:350 (5.7) V8 2BBLPlant:Fremont, CaliforniaSerial Number:141548
Looking on Barrett-Jacksons website your V.I.N. # should be: 3G87H2Z141548
Here below is your V.I.N. # Decoded:
3G87H2Z141548Year:1972Division:OldsmobileSeries:Cutlass SBody:Holiday Hardtop (2 door)Engine:350 (5.7) V8 2BBLPlant:Fremont, CaliforniaSerial Number:141548
October 3rd, 2018, 12:00 PM
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Quick Update... Just received "the call" from the transportation company. The '72 will be arriving at the house between Oct 6th and 8th! The two to three weeks wait time must have been just a bad dream :-)
October 3rd, 2018, 12:12 PM
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Nice car. Congrats. To be nosy, I looked it up on the BJ site 
Looks like you paid a very fair price. Enjoy.
Also, since you were asking about the VIN - in 72 442 was an option package on the Cutlass, so the VIN won't tell you if it left the factory as a 442.
Love the wheels. I'm not sure what Amer racing called them, but back in the day they were called Daisies
Looks like you paid a very fair price. Enjoy. Also, since you were asking about the VIN - in 72 442 was an option package on the Cutlass, so the VIN won't tell you if it left the factory as a 442.
Love the wheels. I'm not sure what Amer racing called them, but back in the day they were called Daisies
October 3rd, 2018, 12:19 PM
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Nice car. Congrats. To be nosy, I looked it up on the BJ site Looks like you paid a very fair price. Enjoy.
Also, since you were asking about the VIN - in 72 442 was an option package on the Cutlass, so the VIN won't tell you if it left the factory as a 442.
Love the wheels. I'm not sure what Amer racing called them, but back in the day they were called Daisies
Looks like you paid a very fair price. Enjoy.Also, since you were asking about the VIN - in 72 442 was an option package on the Cutlass, so the VIN won't tell you if it left the factory as a 442.
Love the wheels. I'm not sure what Amer racing called them, but back in the day they were called Daisies
Not being nosy at all, the price you saw includes the BJ fee!, so we are really happy with what we paid. Need to also factor in the shipping, but whatever LOL.
I figured that the 442 package was an option in '72 as I was asking about that while at the auction. Any idea how to find out if it left the factory as a 442? Have patients with me, new to the collector car world :-)
October 3rd, 2018, 12:24 PM
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Enjoy it for what it is. It looks like a really nice car.
Interesting side note - your car has the rear bumper w/ the cutouts usually associated with 442's but in 72 a small block car wouldn't have gotten that even if it was a 442 so that definitely was added. IMO its a great upgrade. It just looks cool.
October 3rd, 2018, 12:26 PM
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BTW - did you see this car while you were there?
This one went for a good bit more than you paid. I'd say I'd like your car more
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...CUTLASS-222185
This one went for a good bit more than you paid. I'd say I'd like your car more
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...CUTLASS-222185
October 3rd, 2018, 12:31 PM
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BTW - did you see this car while you were there?
This one went for a good bit more than you paid. I'd say I'd like your car more
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...CUTLASS-222185
This one went for a good bit more than you paid. I'd say I'd like your car more
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...CUTLASS-222185
October 3rd, 2018, 01:24 PM
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Your car also Sold at "3" other Barrett-Jackson Auctions in the past - Palm Beach 2011, Palm Beach 2013 & Scottsdale 2017, see below:
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-101794
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-151460
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...***-442-199811
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-101794
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-151460
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...***-442-199811
October 3rd, 2018, 01:29 PM
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Your car also Sold at "3" other Barrett-Jackson Auctions in the past - Palm Beach 2011, Palm Beach 2013 & Scottsdale 2017, see below:
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-101794
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-151460
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...***-442-199811
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-101794
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...R-COUPE-151460
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...***-442-199811
October 3rd, 2018, 01:51 PM
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congrats
Welcome and congrats on the purchase.
Upon your return to Calgary join the Northern Lights Olds Club. Our annual show is in Olds AB every July.
i am in Cochrane and look forward to seeing your car.
Dave
Upon your return to Calgary join the Northern Lights Olds Club. Our annual show is in Olds AB every July.
i am in Cochrane and look forward to seeing your car.
Dave
October 3rd, 2018, 03:06 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, I have just joined the club. Will be nice to meet you and we will be in Olds next July for the show.
Thanks again... Dale
October 4th, 2018, 07:31 AM
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October 4th, 2018, 08:12 AM
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Too bad you couldn't wait for a little while. I could have cancelled my plane ticket and driven it back up to you.
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October 4th, 2018, 08:19 AM
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Hi everyone... Of course, I received the VIN for the '72, but it seems as though when I google it, not a ton on info comes up (just when the vehicle has been up for sale) and also had a site suggest that I was missing some digits. I have 13 digits and I am wondering if maybe the number I am researching is not actually the VIN. I am curious where it was produced and other info, but maybe I will actually find that out by using the cowl tag? First of many Q's... Hope you guys don't mind.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Barrett Jackson has been in the market long enough to know that this wasn't a 442, but they sold it as one anyway likely because they know that those 3 numbers command a higher price. I would document that and ask for a partial refund due to misrepresentation.
October 4th, 2018, 03:14 PM
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No, the VIN won't give you a lot of information, and much as I love the color and appearance of the car I would suggest you did not buy a 442. It's a Cutlass S that's been rebadged and striped. One easy tip off is that no 1972 442 ever left the factory with stainless rocker panels; that was a delete on the W29 package. You should also check the suspension to see if it was upgraded to FE2, as that was an RPO that year. The deck wing is not original to the car. None of the 72's ever came with one - likely a dealer add on from customer request, or a PO did that.
Barrett Jackson has been in the market long enough to know that this wasn't a 442, but they sold it as one anyway likely because they know that those 3 numbers command a higher price. I would document that and ask for a partial refund due to misrepresentation.
Barrett Jackson has been in the market long enough to know that this wasn't a 442, but they sold it as one anyway likely because they know that those 3 numbers command a higher price. I would document that and ask for a partial refund due to misrepresentation.
1. I am sure it was sold NOT as a 442, although, yes, it does have some of the markings. When we were there checking it out and as it was going up on the block, and after talking to way smarter car guys than I, I knew it was not a 442. Running the VIN through GOOGLE, turns out it has been marked this way for many years (at least 7) that I could find. Of note - I did also find some others that had the 350 in it but marked up with 442 markings. Not sure, but seems as though it was an option to mark it up that way.
2. At the Vegas auction, BJ in no way suggested that this was a 442, in fact, on the broadcast (a bunch of friends taped it and sent it to me), they suggest that it has the 442 upgrades, not that it is a 442.
Its all good... We love the car, can't wait for it to get here and are happy with what we paid. Maybe overpriced, but hey, bought it at Barrett Jackson, and I don't really care if we overpaid. I intend to enjoy it, keep it in pristine condition and drive it as much as I can for the short period of time we can drive it here in Alberta. PS - We will be taking it to a car show in Vancouver August 2019, can't wait!
Again though, love the info that I am receiving on this forum, it is extremely educating that is for sure. Thanks again!
October 4th, 2018, 04:32 PM
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For 1972 the 442 was an "appearance package" option for the Cutlass. The 350 engine was the base engine, and a 2bbl single exhaust was even possible. In order to get a 4bbl carb, dual exhaust, or a 455 those had to be ordered as additional options.
October 4th, 2018, 04:36 PM
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Ahhh, kind of what I was hearing as well at the auction. Thanks for clarifying...
October 5th, 2018, 04:08 AM
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1. Appearance package was ordered as an option;
2. Dual exhaust was ordered as an option;
3. Not sure about the 4bbl carb, will need to figure that out;
4. Rear spoiler was ordered as an option;
These are just the newbies assumptions, not too sure if I even have the ability to confirm any of this.
October 5th, 2018, 08:31 AM
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So, these would be my assumptions then...
1. Appearance package was ordered as an option;
2. Dual exhaust was ordered as an option;
3. Not sure about the 4bbl carb, will need to figure that out;
4. Rear spoiler was ordered as an option;
These are just the newbies assumptions, not too sure if I even have the ability to confirm any of this.
1. Appearance package was ordered as an option;
2. Dual exhaust was ordered as an option;
3. Not sure about the 4bbl carb, will need to figure that out;
4. Rear spoiler was ordered as an option;
These are just the newbies assumptions, not too sure if I even have the ability to confirm any of this.
October 5th, 2018, 09:03 AM
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October 5th, 2018, 09:22 AM
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Just to be clear all the spoilers are two pedestal but an original uses 3 attachments per side. Early repo spoilers only use two per pedestal. Newer repo spoilers offer 3 attachments like the original. Regardless of which it is the spoiler looks great on your car. Enjoy it.
October 5th, 2018, 10:18 AM
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Thanks Allen... Couple of things...
1. I am sure it was sold NOT as a 442, although, yes, it does have some of the markings. When we were there checking it out and as it was going up on the block, and after talking to way smarter car guys than I, I knew it was not a 442. Running the VIN through GOOGLE, turns out it has been marked this way for many years (at least 7) that I could find. Of note - I did also find some others that had the 350 in it but marked up with 442 markings. Not sure, but seems as though it was an option to mark it up that way.
2. At the Vegas auction, BJ in no way suggested that this was a 442, in fact, on the broadcast (a bunch of friends taped it and sent it to me), they suggest that it has the 442 upgrades, not that it is a 442.
Its all good... We love the car, can't wait for it to get here and are happy with what we paid. Maybe overpriced, but hey, bought it at Barrett Jackson, and I don't really care if we overpaid. I intend to enjoy it, keep it in pristine condition and drive it as much as I can for the short period of time we can drive it here in Alberta. PS - We will be taking it to a car show in Vancouver August 2019, can't wait!
1. I am sure it was sold NOT as a 442, although, yes, it does have some of the markings. When we were there checking it out and as it was going up on the block, and after talking to way smarter car guys than I, I knew it was not a 442. Running the VIN through GOOGLE, turns out it has been marked this way for many years (at least 7) that I could find. Of note - I did also find some others that had the 350 in it but marked up with 442 markings. Not sure, but seems as though it was an option to mark it up that way.
2. At the Vegas auction, BJ in no way suggested that this was a 442, in fact, on the broadcast (a bunch of friends taped it and sent it to me), they suggest that it has the 442 upgrades, not that it is a 442.
Its all good... We love the car, can't wait for it to get here and are happy with what we paid. Maybe overpriced, but hey, bought it at Barrett Jackson, and I don't really care if we overpaid. I intend to enjoy it, keep it in pristine condition and drive it as much as I can for the short period of time we can drive it here in Alberta. PS - We will be taking it to a car show in Vancouver August 2019, can't wait!
I'm not sure if Oldsmobiledave's terms may have been confusing...as far as I know the spoiler only ever had 2 pedestals (uprights between the trunk lid and the horizontal) but the mounting hardware of the original had 3 points on each base while the repro's only have 2.
October 5th, 2018, 11:15 AM
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Thanks for the kudos! Vancouver... My dad was the co founder of the Tsawwassen Sun Festival Car Show held annually during the August long weekend. Sadly, my dad passed away this past June, but the show lives on! As my dad was an avid collector (he has 5 antique vehicles), it was a desire of mine to start as well. Unfortunately I was 3 months too late for him to see my first one (he was set to attend the Barrett Jackson Auction with my wife, mom and I), I will be paying tribute to him by attending his car show in 2019. Would be super if you joined!
Thanks,
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