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Old September 10th, 2023, 03:22 AM
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New to forum, 70 442, Convertible Barn Find

Hi, I am new to the Olds forum, but not new to forums or cars. I am here because I was fortunate enough to have acquired a new project.

My car is a 70 442 Convertible
4 Speed
A/C
56K miles "survivor" requiring major restoration
Sherwood Green
Black Top, Black interior

Also fortunate enough to have located the original build sheet under the back seat.

Hopefully I can contribute as much as well as learn from this group.
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Nice find and looks like a great project. Did you get it running?
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Welcome aboard! Go Mountaineers! My wife is from Weirton, i'm originally from Ohio.
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Very cool. I/We would love to hear more details. Welcome to Classic Oldsmobile. Cool car. AC 442 Ragtop with a four speed, manual brakes, manual steering too? Standard side view mirror. I am loving it. One of my favorite colors on that car too. Please keep us updated. How is the interior? Options?
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Old September 10th, 2023, 07:41 AM
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PS: I absolutely love this under hood picture. All the early hot rod stickers are so cool. I wouldn't change a thing.


Interesting hood lock too. Boy this car has many stories. 👍 So cool.

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Great find, can you post a photo of the build sheet?
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Welcome. Nice to see them come back from the dead now and again. Interior shots?
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Old September 10th, 2023, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scrappie
Nice find and looks like a great project. Did you get it running?
Thank you.

Haven't tried. It has been parked since 81/82.

I still haven't verified if the engine is stuck.
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Old September 10th, 2023, 05:17 PM
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Welcome aboard! Go Mountaineers! My wife is from Weirton, i'm originally from Ohio.
We are approximately 2 hours south of Wheeling.

Still a few of these in basements and barns. Found this car about 3 miles from my home, and almost nobody knew it was there.

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Old September 10th, 2023, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
Very cool. I/We would love to hear more details. Welcome to Classic Oldsmobile. Cool car. AC 442 Ragtop with a four speed, manual brakes, manual steering too? Standard side view mirror. I am loving it. One of my favorite colors on that car too. Please keep us updated. How is the interior? Options?
Seats are rough, but i believe i can save the carpet, door panels, and dash pad.

It does have power steering.

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Old September 10th, 2023, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 70W-32
Great find, can you post a photo of the build sheet?
I am not sure I am comfortable posting the build sheet, yet.

Car was sold new at Hupp-Wharton Cadillac Olds, in Parkersburg, WV.
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Old September 10th, 2023, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Welcome. Nice to see them come back from the dead now and again. Interior shots?



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So far, I have verified original Carb, Master Cylinder, Engine, Trans, rearend, Alternator, Starter, Radiator, 4 original wheels, shifter, possibly water and fuel pumps, and have not dropped the tank, yet. Could have a second build sheet on it.



I really need a 70 air cleaner as it had a Moroso open element on it, when purchased, along with Mickey Thompson aluminum valve covers. Also missing original Coil.

I have a 70 GSX survivor car that I need to finish some long-time needed maintenance on....then this one is getting a much needed frame off restoration.
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Originally Posted by 3shields
I am not sure I am comfortable posting the build sheet, yet.

Car was sold new at Hupp-Wharton Cadillac Olds, in Parkersburg, WV.
Thanks for posting interior shots, nice that it still has it's carb and alt. That's $1500 or so by themselves.
I wouldn't worry about posting a pic of the build sheet, go ahead, here's a look at the one for my 70 442.



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Good luck with the car. Looks like a great project and nice color combination. Also, very cool to see one sporting the original steel hood. How about providing details on that GSX you mentioned? A lot of us here are closet Buick enthusiasts too.
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Welcome to the site, nice ride.
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Nice Find and 3 miles from you, can't beat that..
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Old September 12th, 2023, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by acavagnaro
Good luck with the car. Looks like a great project and nice color combination. Also, very cool to see one sporting the original steel hood. How about providing details on that GSX you mentioned? A lot of us here are closet Buick enthusiasts too.
it is #302 of 678. Saturn Yellow, Stage 1 auto, 130k miles. Survivor with approximately 50% original paint.




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Old September 12th, 2023, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Thanks for posting interior shots, nice that it still has it's carb and alt. That's $1500 or so by themselves.
I wouldn't worry about posting a pic of the build sheet, go ahead, here's a look at the one for my 70 442.
Here is my build sheet.



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Welcome. The 442 has a couple of nice options. The GSX is sweet.
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70-72 Skylark/GS/GSX Stage cars are as pretty as an Oldsmobile. Great lines.
Your 70 Olds looks solid.
By the way, what is this?


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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
70-72 Skylark/GS/GSX Stage cars are as pretty as an Oldsmobile. Great lines.
Your 70 Olds looks solid.
By the way, what is this?

That looks to be an old aftermarket hood lock. The chain attaches to the hood and lets you open the hood just far enough to get the key in and release the pin bolted to the chain.
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
70-72 Skylark/GS/GSX Stage cars are as pretty as an Oldsmobile. Great lines.
Your 70 Olds looks solid.
By the way, what is this?

Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
PS: I absolutely love this under hood picture. All the early hot rod stickers are so cool. I wouldn't change a thing.


Interesting hood lock too. Boy this car has many stories. 👍 So cool.
These hood locks were sold everywhere back in the seventies eighties etc. The chained piece attaches to the hood. The arrow looking piece locks into the base.
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Thats a very well preserved build sheet, thanks for posting


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Here is my build sheet.

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Originally Posted by 3shields
Here is my build sheet.

What's the tag in the second pic?
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What's the tag in the second pic?
Carpet tag. One on each half.
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Originally Posted by 3shields
it is #302 of 678. Saturn Yellow, Stage 1 aurora, 130k miles. Survivor with approximately 50% original paint.


Damn thats a sharp car..living in Casper Wyoming in 1978, working at Safeway, we had a lady customer who drove a rusted out, very rough 70 GSX.. but it was all there..I tried buying it even as rough as it was, but no dice..
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Sweet Buick! Love those GSXs!
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Thanks for showing us the GSX. Beautiful car. You now own two of the coolest rides GM offered in 1970. My '69 442 convertible also came out of the Linden, NJ assembly plant.
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Man that is a nice car! And you found a 'survivor' too. I know how awesome that car would be if restored, but I have seen so many 'restored', modded, resto-modded, replicas (declared or not), etc etc that if it were mine I swear I would clean it as best I can, get it running, replace maintenence items (rubber, lubes, brakes) and just drive it, stickers and all. Because that's what it was made for, and you don't have to worry as much about the neaderthals parking next you trying to make an impression (on your doors).

You GSX is the stuff, love the 8 track lol. My (unsolicited) opinion is treat yourself to driving that one for shows or cruise nights etc, or clean roads... drive that beatiful Cutlass 4spd the way it was meant to be; go fishing in it, 'test the suspension' on some gravel roads, parts chaser etc etc, don't worry the musty smell will go away after a while lol.
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Originally Posted by rat infested
Man that is a nice car! And you found a 'survivor' too. I know how awesome that car would be if restored, but I have seen so many 'restored', modded, resto-modded, replicas (declared or not), etc etc that if it were mine I swear I would clean it as best I can, get it running, replace maintenence items (rubber, lubes, brakes) and just drive it, stickers and all. Because that's what it was made for, and you don't have to worry as much about the neaderthals parking next you trying to make an impression (on your doors).

You GSX is the stuff, love the 8 track lol. My (unsolicited) opinion is treat yourself to driving that one for shows or cruise nights etc, or clean roads... drive that beatiful Cutlass 4spd the way it was meant to be; go fishing in it, 'test the suspension' on some gravel roads, parts chaser etc etc, don't worry the musty smell will go away after a while lol.
I would typically agree, as my GSX is a survivor and I am only doing necessary maintenance and upgrades. Unfortunately, the Olds is very rough. I have alot of restoration work ahead of me.

However, I have most of the parts, NOS, needed to do a top notch restoration on this much deserving car. I understand they are only original once, but this ole girl is very past her prime.
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3shields : I admire simply that it has been 'liberated' and am happy you have plans for it other than letting it sit again, it wasn't imagined, designed, manufactured, purchased for that originally. I, nor anybody else imho, tells you what to do with your car, I know you understand I wrote " if it were mine ". I defend your right to do as you like with it, we all try to do the best we can. Some people would part it out for maximum profit (vultures imo ), some would strip it and replace nearly everything with aftermarket parts and completely change the car then call it 'restored', some would let it sit - I wouldn't like to see any of that, but it's not for me to decide.

I guess I take more notice, and appreciate more, the 'survivor' cars (still functional without major restoration efforts) since any cruise night, car show, magazine article is overfilled with cars that are anything but 'original'. Many, many, times that happens because we are starting with a dream and trying to achieve it using as many pieces of that dream-puzzle as we can negotiate and acquire, and I applaud all those that make it happen. There just seems to be an irony that we all enjoy the cars, older people such as myself remember the sounds, smells, idiosyncrocies, foibles and simpple undeniable pleasure of jumping in one, turning the key, and heading off on our inadequate bias ply tires, mostly working drum brakes, filling up at the neighbourhood gas station for a few bucks, finding replacement engines on a saturday morning for $50-150 and having that in by sunday afternoon, pine tree air fresheners available nation wide, stickers, aerials and mudflaps, that is to say that what we enjoyed so much then, even cherish now, we don't re-create when we have the chance. Any two or more people who start chatting about 'old cars' will both be smiling within seconds of the initial engagement, one story leads to another, etc. The stories are about 'the past' and yet we live in 'the now', but the time-link exist sometimes when you can seat yourself into something that was actually on the road 'back then' and is still making miles to this very day... and that's what I'm rambling on about. I'm just appreciating more and more the ones you just don't see anymore.

God bless you, God bless the USA, from one of your Canadian cousins.
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Welcome my Oldsmobrother to the land of Oldsmobiliing!

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