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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:28 PM
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My '68 Dream

Bought last August, at auction, '68 Olds 442 convertible w/4 speed, fact ac & 8-track. Not quite as advertised. Found that heat/ac does not work because missing "2nd type" manifold and rectangular hose ducting. No wonder it doesn't work! Looking for help to locate manifold & hose. Any help appreciated. I've attached a couple of pics


Please see my album - "Rog's '68 Dream - '68 Olds 442"

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Old January 4th, 2016, 12:42 PM
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They are too big.
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Old January 4th, 2016, 01:23 PM
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Thank you - any suggestions on how to reduce MB from 5.72 to 4.77?
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Old January 4th, 2016, 01:44 PM
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Couldn't reduce the size - but did set up an album - Rog's '68 Dream - '68 Olds 442
Please take a look - I'm proud of it, even if it does need some work.
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Well, Joe must be happy.
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Well, Joe must be happy.
LOL... 1st thing I thought of!
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Glad to see you found us! Car looks awesome!
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Old January 7th, 2016, 06:50 PM
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It's a W30 ??
Or, has the W36 stripe but not a W30?

To resize photos:

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HVAC ducting missing a little on your pretty 1968 442?

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heh

nice car
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Old January 9th, 2016, 12:37 PM
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New to the car. What differentiates a W30 from a W36? Born with a 400 4 barrel, now has a 455 replaced by GM in 1970 under warranty.
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Old January 9th, 2016, 01:01 PM
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New to the car. What differentiates a W30 from a W36? Born with a 400 4 barrel, now has a 455 replaced by GM in 1970 under warranty.
W36 is the fender stripe
I generally goes hand in hand with the W30 pkg

But, as I understand it, one could order the stripe alone or the W30 pkg w/o the stripe.

W30 is the enhancement pkg on a 442- Outside Air Induction, heads, cam, etc.

It is hard to tell for sure if a given car was born a W30 but you can certainly look for indications or contradictions

Protecto Plate with engine and trans listed would be nice.

power brakes or lack thereof
AC, ditto
Oh, now I noticed you said factory AC
Well, I recall W30 precluding the AC option so that rules out W30

ID tag on trans if auto trans
Ah, I see you said manual trans... ok.

It's strange to see the W36 stripe on a non-W30 car, and stranger yet to see it done right, placed correctly [as far as I can tell] fore-aft such that at the bottom the stripe is more or less centered in the fender heel. This requires the numerals to be located correctly as well.

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Old January 9th, 2016, 01:17 PM
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Does not have air induction, at least no sign of. It has all original steel on car. Had a repaint 10 yrs ago from original. Correct colors in & out. What else should I look for? Don't have a protecto plate. And haven't found a build sheet. Car has 70K original miles and have title documentation to verify mileage.0
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Old January 9th, 2016, 02:38 PM
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But, as I understand it, one could order the stripe alone or the W30 pkg w/o the stripe.
The Paint, Rally Stripe was available on any 442 under RPO (wait for it...) W36, for $15.80. It was N/A with W30 because it was already included with the package.

And yes, I'm fick'n ECSTATIC!

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Old January 9th, 2016, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rog
Does not have air induction, at least no sign of. It has all original steel on car. Had a repaint 10 yrs ago from original. Correct colors in & out. What else should I look for? Don't have a protecto plate. And haven't found a build sheet. Car has 70K original miles and have title documentation to verify mileage.0
Sounds like you have a '68 442 with W36 stripe option, AC too.

I don't recall a VIN in the above, but it should be like
344678M100123

Any character other than M there precludes W30 also. Pretty sure having AC covered that already.

I would love to help you out on the HVAC ducting but it is extremely rare here in MI to find a '68 with AC. Consequently, I never had such a parts car.
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Here is another '68 4-4-2 (non-W30) with the W36 stripe.


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Old January 18th, 2016, 09:50 AM
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Hi Folks. Thanks for all the info you're feeding me. Have found the ductwork in AZ & KS - on its way. For those who asked, vin is 344678M332408. With some research, I have found they made only 170 W30 convertibles; most were automatics. Only 13 made with 4 speed & fac AC. If anyone has different numbers, I'd love to know about it. Thanks again.
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Not sure where you got your info, but a lot of it is wrong.

No W-30 ragtops had AC, and most W-30s were 4-speeds by far.

Additionally, I'm not aware of any combination of options (like 4-speed and AC) for any Olds from the era.
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Originally Posted by Rog
Hi Folks. Thanks for all the info you're feeding me. Have found the ductwork in AZ & KS - on its way. For those who asked, vin is 344678M332408. With some research, I have found they made only 170 W30 convertibles; most were automatics. Only 13 made with 4 speed & fac AC. If anyone has different numbers, I'd love to know about it. Thanks again.
There were exactly ZERO W-30s made with A/C in the 1968 model year. The 328 deg cam did not generate enough vacuum to operate power brakes or A/C, so neither was factory available. The first time any W-30 was offered with A/C was in the 1970 model year, and those cars got the 285/287 deg cam, not the 328/328 cam.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:36 AM
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These are more likely the production numbers for your 442 (non W30)


68 442
Convert
148 3-spd manual
1,518 4-spd
3,476 Auto



I have one of the original MT cars also. No idea if it was originally a three or four speed


.....and Joe........the stripe is in the correct location but it was never a stripe car to begin with.


It's called artistic license

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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:46 AM
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Mike should have also shared the 1968 W-30 production numbers he posted on another forum:

W30 Sports Coupe
246 4-spd
69 Auto

W30 Holiday Coupe
1,111 4-spd
319 Auto

W30 Convert
127 4-spd
43 Auto
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May as well supply the rest:


442
Sports Coupe
373 3-spd manual
1,969 4-spd
2,384 Auto

442
Holiday Coupe
769 3-spd manual
9,433 4-spd
16,517 Auto

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I have one of the 43!
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Old January 21st, 2016, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rog
Hi Folks. Thanks for all the info you're feeding me. Have found the ductwork in AZ & KS - on its way. For those who asked, vin is 344678M332408. With some research, I have found they made only 170 W30 convertibles; most were automatics. Only 13 made with 4 speed & fac AC. If anyone has different numbers, I'd love to know about it. Thanks again.
So can you show us where you found this info?
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Old January 22nd, 2016, 01:46 PM
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sorry diego told my info was all wrong so I got rid of it .
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You mean you don't know the link to the site?
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Old January 23rd, 2016, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Diego
You mean you don't know the link to the site?

Lay off Diego. The guy is new here. He has 9 posts. He said his numbers were wrong. We've all seen info on the internet that we've taken as gospel only to later find out it was incorrect.
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Beg your pardon?

He's an adult, and he's more than capable of answering for himself. We're all trying to help him. If you're able to decipher his post, please enlighten me, but please don't jump on me for being curious.
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Old January 24th, 2016, 11:53 AM
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DAM! sorry I asked the question. info come to me wile I was looking for parts on the land line calls across the country yes I'm 63 ! didn't know I had to keep a book!
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Rog, Welcome. Nice 68. Fusicks, and Year One are two great online resources for reproduction parts. Fusick actually manufacturers some of their own parts. Several guys here have barns full of good used stuff as well. So dont be afraid to check out the classified ad sections to look and to post for parts needed.
Many of us own this one year wonder. Some 67 parts interchange some 69 parts inter change. Many 68-72 A bodied GMs have interchangeable parts as well. So if you dont find what you need try looking at the GTO, Chevelle, Skylark world for the non-specific parts.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 11:07 AM
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have year one and opg !ware can I find fusick? has someone upgraded front speaker with air to stereo speaker rest are to thick by 1 inch to put duct back .what has anyone done with location of rear speakers if you don't have stereo seat on the conv?
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Old January 28th, 2016, 11:26 AM
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ware can I find fusick?
Um... Have you tried typing fusick into Google? It's the first thing that comes up.

Here, I'll save you the trouble:

https://www.fusickautomotiveproducts.com/
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The rear seat speaker is mounted behind the seat, facing rearward, with a rectangular metal grille. This is within the triangular area where the top pump is mounted. Can be seen when top is up and looking into the well area...pretty damn useless when top is down .
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The factory locations as seen from the trunk but I think the single speaker was mounted in the other direction. The second photo is the location where I put mine
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Originally Posted by Rog
Tried to post pics - twice - missing a "security token"? Any idea what this means?

Welcome to the site.

Whenever that error message comes up on a forum site, I usually try just uploading a couple pictures at a time instead of ALL of the pictures. That always works for me.
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looking for left side rear fender bright also lft and rgt caliper brackets,shelds changing out front drum to disc any help or warnings would be great!
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looking for left side rear fender bright also lft and rgt caliper brackets,shelds changing out front drum to disc any help or warnings would be great!
Posting this in Parts Wanted might get a better response. Also, are you looking for the correct 1968 four piston calipers and brackets or the 69-72 single piston design? Repros of either configuration are readily available.
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Looking for the correct set-up that was offered as an option on the 1968. Joe, what was it? Thanks.
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Looking for the correct set-up that was offered as an option on the 1968. Joe, what was it? Thanks.
Four piston calipers would be correct for 1967-68. Since they are the same parts as used on 1967-68 Camaros, every single piece is available from repro vendors. Be aware that the four piston calipers cost about ten times as much as the single piston ones.
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