I need help with my 72 hurst #'s!!!
#41
I drove a very nice and highly original example of one of the "dealer built" '72 H/O hardtops about 12 years ago in NorCal. It didn't have the W45 on the tag, but it was born as an 11/11 paint code, U code 455, Dual Gate, and had the correct half vinyl top, reflective stripes, blacked out taillights/grilles, etc. It was extremely correct and I'm the first person to nitpick. There were probably some fairly strict guidelines on how these additional cars were to be assembled if done by dealers.
Terry
Terry
#43
Just an Olds Guy
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Location: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
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#45
In the file I got with the car and yes, it's quite extensive, there is an e-mail to Judy in march of this year by the guy that I bought it from that gives all the w30 options that this car has, the carb, intake, heads, exhaust manifolds, trans code, axle code, double tire sticker in glove box, etc. and all she had to say was "if theres no x in the vin, it's not a w30" But what I want to know is why it was delivered to Valley olds. with a $18.00 and a $414.60 hurst option from the factory and a $695.00 hurst package from the dealer with no w45 on the original trim tag?
#46
Just an Olds Guy
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From what I have seen researching this, there were a fixed number of HO's produced. That means Fisher would have received orders for those specific bodies - it was Fisher who put the W45 or W46 on the cowl tag - not Lansing. IMO not having an X in the VIN is not the deciding factor here.
From Hurst Production by the numbers the following quote suggests that HO production was augmented by clone HO's even back in the day:
IMHO this is what the car in question falls under.
From Hurst Production by the numbers the following quote suggests that HO production was augmented by clone HO's even back in the day:
ALL of the 629 factory production Hurst/Olds cars had the W45 or W46 on the Fisher Body tag. The others are a postproduction conversion. They can still be driven, shown at shows and enjoyed by their owners. They would not be considered as valuable as the factory-produced H/O’s
#47
This is why i love clones lol. Performance is what made the cars rare and desireable in the first place. Better performance at a lower price? Yes sir, sign me up haha
Kinda off topic but relevent-ish. Anyway, as far as this car goes, it has every bit of equipment for a W30, and the popular conclusion is that it was installed at the dealership, which in my opinion is 100% just as good as "factory" (otherwise Stage 1 Buicks are irrelevent, etc, etc). All of the equipment is there, i think its annoying that not having the impressions of certain letters and numbers can ruin all that when the really important thing should be the equipment. After all, those letters and numbers are there to identify that very equipment. If youve identified it without those special letters and numbers that should be good enough
Just one guys opinion. Not lookin for an argument but wanted to add my 2 cents cause ive seen this a lot and it gets under my skin sometimes
Kinda off topic but relevent-ish. Anyway, as far as this car goes, it has every bit of equipment for a W30, and the popular conclusion is that it was installed at the dealership, which in my opinion is 100% just as good as "factory" (otherwise Stage 1 Buicks are irrelevent, etc, etc). All of the equipment is there, i think its annoying that not having the impressions of certain letters and numbers can ruin all that when the really important thing should be the equipment. After all, those letters and numbers are there to identify that very equipment. If youve identified it without those special letters and numbers that should be good enough
Just one guys opinion. Not lookin for an argument but wanted to add my 2 cents cause ive seen this a lot and it gets under my skin sometimes
#48
my SX came from there and i contacted them 6 months ago and they have records from way back then.
#49
olds
Valley olds in Roanoke, VA.? I called them last week and they said their records only went back a year or so. I talked to a receptionist and she talked to a mgr. and called me back. If it was, do you remember who you talked to and what kind of info did you recieve. Any help would b awesome!!!!!!
#50
Valley olds in Roanoke, VA.? I called them last week and they said their records only went back a year or so. I talked to a receptionist and she talked to a mgr. and called me back. If it was, do you remember who you talked to and what kind of info did you recieve. Any help would b awesome!!!!!!
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