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hi name is Rich from muleshoe texas been in the Air Force 8 years now and just had some one offer me my new 1966 cutlass i dont know mutch about them been a mopar guy most my life and worked on some chevys but i hope to get some good info from yall on what to do with the car i cant even tell you what engine is in the thing was told it was a 455 but i know they dint come in that year only the 330 and 400 v8 did here are some pics let me know what ya think
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Welcome to the site. Your motor is likey a mid 70's 350. The intake has an EGR valve. What is the big number or letter on the driver front or passenger rear of the either head near the spark plug hole?
When you post pics make a space between them and they won't go off to the side like they were.
When you post pics make a space between them and they won't go off to the side like they were.
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Very little difference looking at them. Big blocks have taller decks and wider intakes but near impossible to tell in just pictures. Like I said post the head number or letter and also the casting number on the block. Its behind the timing cover next to the filler neck.
66 400 big block
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66 330 small block
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66 400 big block
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66 330 small block
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The first thing is to forget anything you ever knew about a Chevy ("GM") 350 as it is very different from an Olds, Buick or Pontiac 350. There is actually only a couple inches difference in width between the small-block Olds (260, 307, 330, 350, 403) and the big-block (400, 425, 455).
Look on the "shelf" between the water pump and intake (where the oil tube is) and give us the numbers cast into the block. That will help us positively identify what engine you have. Right now, I'm leaning toward 73-74 350 since it has the EGR valve and a points distributor, and looks like OLDSMOBILE stamped into the valve covers- only 73-74 engines had that.
Look on the "shelf" between the water pump and intake (where the oil tube is) and give us the numbers cast into the block. That will help us positively identify what engine you have. Right now, I'm leaning toward 73-74 350 since it has the EGR valve and a points distributor, and looks like OLDSMOBILE stamped into the valve covers- only 73-74 engines had that.
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i will take yalls word for it like i sead i dont know mutch but what i have looked up on the net just know that the 66 came with a 330 or 400 and thats about it but i should be picking the car up guy that was going to get me a trailer looks like he is going to be a flake so i dont know. will post all the numbers i can find if it is a chevy 350 i have tuns of heads cams from our old dirt track racer but dont know i will get back to yall tomarow. thank you
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Why couldn't I have had a big brother like you? 
A 455 will fit in that Omega too, but you can probably build up that 350 to be all he wants to handle and then some.
Other than the Olds-specific pieces (grille/tailpanel/interior) and drivetrain, anything that works on a 73-74 Nova will work on the Omega, so that will make his job a little easier. I think the front fenders interchange with the Pontiac and Buick versions, Ventura II and Apollo.
Glad you're liking Olds and getting yer little bro into them too. Young guys are who'll keep the name alive.
A 455 will fit in that Omega too, but you can probably build up that 350 to be all he wants to handle and then some.
Other than the Olds-specific pieces (grille/tailpanel/interior) and drivetrain, anything that works on a 73-74 Nova will work on the Omega, so that will make his job a little easier. I think the front fenders interchange with the Pontiac and Buick versions, Ventura II and Apollo.
Glad you're liking Olds and getting yer little bro into them too. Young guys are who'll keep the name alive.
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What Jamesbo means is, someone who understands "y'all" and the difference between single person "y'all", plural "y'all" and "all y'all". The perfect pronoun to describe and encompass everyone you're talking with!
Not to be confused with "you guys".
Not to be confused with "you guys".
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well yall im going to start building me a 500hp 455 engine with the specs off carcraft to see how it works out if any of yall have any input lets hear it. http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...chevy_454.html
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welcome to the site. you still in the AF and if so what base? I am currently stationed at Lackland myself lol
and the link you provided was for a 454 chebby. might i sugest this link:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
its for an olds 455. was looking at doing this build myself here in my car...
and the link you provided was for a 454 chebby. might i sugest this link:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
its for an olds 455
. was looking at doing this build myself here in my car...
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well yall im going to start building me a 500hp 455 engine with the specs off carcraft to see how it works out if any of yall have any input lets hear it. http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...chevy_454.html
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its 454 and 455
you half to look at the first part of the site i posted it talks about the 454 455 and i think a ford engine http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...bos/index.html
welcome to the site. you still in the AF and if so what base? I am currently stationed at Lackland myself lol
and the link you provided was for a 454 chebby. might i sugest this link:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
its for an olds 455. was looking at doing this build myself here in my car...
and the link you provided was for a 454 chebby. might i sugest this link:
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
its for an olds 455
. was looking at doing this build myself here in my car...
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any one know if this will fit a olds http://lubbock.craigslist.org/pts/2458153926.html
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any one know if this will fit a olds http://lubbock.craigslist.org/pts/2458153926.html
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well that sucks i found this to but dont know what the hell it is im saven up for a edelbrock torker if i cant find one http://lubbock.craigslist.org/pts/2501947940.html
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here is my plan all i need to do is find some C heads close to me
Oldsmobile 455
Dr. Olds and his fanatical followers have the luxury of the excellent 455 as a great foundation from which to build 500 hp. To get the inside scoop on what it takes to configure a pump gas 500hp street 455 Olds, we spoke to Dick Miller of Dick Miller Racing. Here's what we found out.
To begin with, Miller recommends going with an 850 HP Holley carburetor to ensure plenty of cfm to feed those hungry cylinders along with either an Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic or Edelbrock Torker single-plane intake. The single-plane might cost a little low-speed torque, but with an engine this big, you can afford to move the torque curve up a little.
The Olds cast-iron "C" heads with stock 2.07/1.71-inch valves and a 79cc combustion chamber offer the best potential. This will create around 9.75:1 compression with a typical head gasket and dished piston. Miller says you'd have to plan on substantially porting these heads to create sufficient flow to make this 500hp number, but it is possible. Another alternative is to look at the new Bulldog aluminum cylinder head that offers substantially better flow over even the ported iron heads. The heads aren't cheap at $2,195, available through Dick Miller Racing, but now you're working with a brand-new set of aluminum heads.
Miller offers his own custom cam that works very well with this combination, but he'd rather not publish its specs. A Lunati single-pattern cam that comes very close, according to Miller, offers 295 degrees of advertised duration with 245 degrees at 0.050-inch tappet lift, a valve lift of 0.569-inch, and a lobe separation angle of 108 degrees. With the Olds' long stroke, idle quality is still decent, although this should not be considered a daily driver type engine. Miller also suggests Kooks 17/8-inch headers with 31/2-inch collectors and a 3-inch exhaust system back through Magnaflow 3-inch mufflers and 21/2-inch tailpipes. The Kooks headers offer excellent collector design and are designed to fit the popular '64-'67 Cutlass body style. According to Miller, this engine should make around 570 to 580 lb-ft of torque and 500-plus-hp without spinning the engine to extreme rpm, especially since the larger main bearings are not designed to handle high rpm.
The Olds is renowned as a torque-maker, so it's best to capitalize on those qualities.
Specs
•Displacement: 455 ci, bore x stroke--4.125x4.250
•Carburetor: 850 HP Holley
•Intake: Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic PN 6109, Edelbrock Torker PN 7112
•Heads: Olds iron "C" heads, 2.07/1.71-inch valves
•Compression: 9.75:1
•Camshaft: Lunati PN 07183 hydraulic flat-tappet 295 adv., 245 degrees @ 0.050, 0.569-inch lift 108-degree lobe separation angle
•Headers: Kook's 17/8-inch primary pipe
•Exhaust: 3-inch exhaust, Magnaflow mufflers
Read more: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...#ixzz1Tw18zLHz
Dr. Olds and his fanatical followers have the luxury of the excellent 455 as a great foundation from which to build 500 hp. To get the inside scoop on what it takes to configure a pump gas 500hp street 455 Olds, we spoke to Dick Miller of Dick Miller Racing. Here's what we found out.
To begin with, Miller recommends going with an 850 HP Holley carburetor to ensure plenty of cfm to feed those hungry cylinders along with either an Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic or Edelbrock Torker single-plane intake. The single-plane might cost a little low-speed torque, but with an engine this big, you can afford to move the torque curve up a little.
The Olds cast-iron "C" heads with stock 2.07/1.71-inch valves and a 79cc combustion chamber offer the best potential. This will create around 9.75:1 compression with a typical head gasket and dished piston. Miller says you'd have to plan on substantially porting these heads to create sufficient flow to make this 500hp number, but it is possible. Another alternative is to look at the new Bulldog aluminum cylinder head that offers substantially better flow over even the ported iron heads. The heads aren't cheap at $2,195, available through Dick Miller Racing, but now you're working with a brand-new set of aluminum heads.
Miller offers his own custom cam that works very well with this combination, but he'd rather not publish its specs. A Lunati single-pattern cam that comes very close, according to Miller, offers 295 degrees of advertised duration with 245 degrees at 0.050-inch tappet lift, a valve lift of 0.569-inch, and a lobe separation angle of 108 degrees. With the Olds' long stroke, idle quality is still decent, although this should not be considered a daily driver type engine. Miller also suggests Kooks 17/8-inch headers with 31/2-inch collectors and a 3-inch exhaust system back through Magnaflow 3-inch mufflers and 21/2-inch tailpipes. The Kooks headers offer excellent collector design and are designed to fit the popular '64-'67 Cutlass body style. According to Miller, this engine should make around 570 to 580 lb-ft of torque and 500-plus-hp without spinning the engine to extreme rpm, especially since the larger main bearings are not designed to handle high rpm.
The Olds is renowned as a torque-maker, so it's best to capitalize on those qualities.
Specs
•Displacement: 455 ci, bore x stroke--4.125x4.250
•Carburetor: 850 HP Holley
•Intake: Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic PN 6109, Edelbrock Torker PN 7112
•Heads: Olds iron "C" heads, 2.07/1.71-inch valves
•Compression: 9.75:1
•Camshaft: Lunati PN 07183 hydraulic flat-tappet 295 adv., 245 degrees @ 0.050, 0.569-inch lift 108-degree lobe separation angle
•Headers: Kook's 17/8-inch primary pipe
•Exhaust: 3-inch exhaust, Magnaflow mufflers
Read more: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...#ixzz1Tw18zLHz
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I got an 870 street avenger i used to run on my car if your interested.
http://www.holley.com/0-80870.asp
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http://www.holley.com/0-80870.asp
PM if interested
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well i just picked up the Intake: Offenhauser Port-O-Sonic for 100 bucks. does any one know what AA stamped on the heads means and 411 783 is stamped on it
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just looked it up it is a 45 found this to adapt it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Moros...Q5fAccessories
or just get me a new carb
or just get me a new carb
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