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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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Craigslist and finding the car you want

I've scoured Craiglist for the past three months looking for a solid 1970 notchback Cutlass. Is it just me, or do people try to get $10-15,000 for a fixer upper normally? I feel like they value their project car like it's completely restored. Or are they possibly trying to get one of us newbie suckers to pay out?

On another quick note, I'm looking to get a 1970 notchback with a 350, bucket seats, and automatic on the console. For some reason, they seem very hard to find in project cars. Anyone know why that is?
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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You just never know when a particular car will show up for sale. You just have to be patient. The prices listed are asking prices, in most cases they will take less. Good luck with your quest.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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I'm not sure where you are, but this one in Tampa looks good for $6500: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4160688967.html

I'm sure you are aware that the 68-72 Cutlasses are very popular right now with the donk crowd, and that has driven prices up.

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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Yeah, thanks.

I think I am slowly learning that most people that have these cars don't sell them. I'm about 25% saved up for paying 100% cash for a project car. So, I have a while before I can actually do anything and get a car parked in the garage to work on.

Is there another avenue other than Craigslist that people on here use? I have seen that several people will post in the Cars for Sale forum to help each other out.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by halfmoontrail
I'm not sure where you are, but this one in Tampa looks good for $6500: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/4160688967.html

I'm sure you are aware that the 68-72 Cutlasses are very popular right now with the donk crowd, and that has driven prices up.

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Thanks! I saw that one. I'm in Virginia, but know all about the trek to Florida since I used to live there. I have a ways to go before I can make anyone a solid offer.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:03 AM
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Cars for sale here on this site, Ebay, racingjunk.com, autabuy.com, collector car nation, autotrader, etc...


This site is one of our members:
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:18 AM
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Thanks! The more resources I can scour through, the better.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:24 AM
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A very solid, running and driving '70 Supreme with the options you want just got parted out on here last month when nobody bought it fast enough....

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:31 AM
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I know. My wallet wasn't full enough to be able to try to get it.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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Might save money in the long run buying one that is already done....

http://ocala.craigslist.org/cto/4268708646.html

Or, go the 455 route - this looks like it could be a rare car, better move quick...

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/4255894687.html

Good Luck.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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On this one I think the seller may be incorrect on factory 455 or maybe the guy thinks his 350 is a 455.
I could be missing it but I don't see SX emblems & all SX's got the cut out rear bumper.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/4255894687.html
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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Not all 70 CS with 455's were SX's...just hang tight until Vette442 circles back to this thread with more expertise. If it's Supreme-related he'll know...
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by droptopron
On this one I think the seller may be incorrect on factory 455 or maybe the guy thinks his 350 is a 455.
I could be missing it but I don't see SX emblems & all SX's got the cut out rear bumper.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/4255894687.html

It also has the Cutlass S grills and hood.
Still looks nice though.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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You have seen Pawn Start and Kounting cars, right?
You show up look it over, pick at the flaws and moan bout your expenses then offer 30% of asking, then barter to 40-60% of asking price. Or, walk away. Never be afraid to walk away.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Some people buy cars for stupid money. Therefore, some people ask stupid money for theirs, hoping that someone will come along and pay stupid money. A guy in my area was asking $7500 for a "very rare" 68 4 door Cutlass, complete with virtually no paint, rust and a worn out interior.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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It also has the Cutlass S grills and hood.
Still looks nice though.
The hood is correct for the supremes, it matches mine on my 70cs! Agreed that the grills are not correct.

To the original poster there is one listed in Chicago for $4500 no buckets if memory serves.
Also they posted it here member name samanthaanddan.

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 12:37 PM
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I had a 1970 Cutlass listed on this site a short while back for forty-three hundred or best offer. I am not saying it was the best deal going, but I was open to offers. And it was a good, solid, running / driving project car. I have since started parting it out. Wow! what a waste.
I bought the car off Craigslist and the trick to getting it was; I had cash money in my pocket and I was ready, and willing to go buy it. I wound up getting it for sixty percent of the asking price.
Another recent find was an all original 1971 Cutlass S I found locally. It was a lot rougher, but the price was also a lot easier on my pocket book. It too was a running, driving car. All it needed were tires and it could have been used as a dailey driver. But IMO it wasn't a good candidate for restoration due to the rust, both visible and hidden, which I found when I started disassembling it. I paid fifty percent of the asking price for it.
Deals are out there, you just need to be ready to jump when they appear.

I also believe it is better, and far less expensive, to buy a car that is already finished as opposed to buying and fixing one up.
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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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I've bought dozens of Oldsmobiles over the years. I never nitpick or point out faults. I ask how much they need for car/engine/whatever I'm looking at. After I hear the price, I tell them "it's worth the price but unfortunately I don't have that much money. Talk a little more, usually they'll ask how much I have. I'll tell, I don't want to insult you. They finally "pry" my number out of me.Pretty low. Usually they'll counter lower, sometimes I have to refrain from buying. I will say, maybe I can borrow X amount from (fill in a name). More than not they take the offer. If not I can always take their last lowest price. Cash does talk. Ken

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Old Jan 6, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Yeah, I plan on having a minimum of about $4,000 in my pocket before I try to make anyone any type of offer. I'm willing to drive and haul however far I need to get a good deal on the exact type of car I want (although, cross country might not be worth it). Cash does talk. I learned that from watching Fast N Loud.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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I would say over 50% of craigslist sellers selling old cars are uninformed. They are the ones that see the televised auctions and think they're junk is worth gold. If you find one that is way over priced and close to you. I would still go look at it. I have done this several times. I will go with NO intentions of buying it because of the price. After looking at it tell them you would have to pass but if they don't have any luck selling it (and they won't) and want to come down on the price to give you a call. I have had people call me before i even get home and also people call me a year or two later that they are tired of looking at it and to make an offer.
Old Jan 6, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jensenracing77
I would say over 50% of craigslist sellers selling old cars are uninformed. They are the ones that see the televised auctions and think they're junk is worth gold. If you find one that is way over priced and close to you. I would still go look at it. I have done this several times. I will go with NO intentions of buying it because of the price. After looking at it tell them you would have to pass but if they don't have any luck selling it (and they won't) and want to come down on the price to give you a call. I have had people call me before i even get home and also people call me a year or two later that they are tired of looking at it and to make an offer.
I have left leaving a standing offer of what I believe is a fair price. Each offer was accepted, two immediately and one two weeks later.

But be aware, the offer you leave them with will be used against you. It'll be the first thing they tell the next guy when the negotiations began. I was just lucky.

And being nice, not pointing out each flaw, and just hanging out and talking for awhile sure does help.
Old Jan 7, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by droptopron
On this one I think the seller may be incorrect on factory 455 or maybe the guy thinks his 350 is a 455.
I could be missing it but I don't see SX emblems & all SX's got the cut out rear bumper.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/4255894687.html
L33 455 2bbl was an option dual exhaust and th400 mandantory.

On the picture I see (?) a left pipe sticking out but can't tell from the angle on the right.

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Old Jan 7, 2014 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by molasses4masses
I've scoured Craiglist for the past three months looking for a solid 1970 notchback Cutlass. Is it just me, or do people try to get $10-15,000 for a fixer upper normally? I feel like they value their project car like it's completely restored. Or are they possibly trying to get one of us newbie suckers to pay out?
I appreciate others posting about my site. I also want to mention that my site retains all past ads (but removes contact information for privacy). You can use the search function to at least see what has been on the market. This may help you get a more realistic idea of what price you might be looking to spend. Here is a link to just 70 Cutlass Supremes.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/sea...=any&color=all

I've seen this one on the market too go from 6k down to 4500.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4263441905.html
Old Jan 7, 2014 | 02:28 PM
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Joffroi, If now one has said it yet,
It is a fantastic site.

I for one have it saved in my favorites file.
Well done sir. It is appriciated.
Old Jan 7, 2014 | 03:13 PM
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Joffroi, If now one has said it yet,
It is a fantastic site.

I for one have it saved in my favorites file.
Well done sir. It is appriciated.
Thanks a lot! Its been fun to build and run.
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