hello its me again well got back from afghan an went to work on the delta had a buddy freshen up motor we replaced all the bearings turned crank .10 new gaskets so im trying to start for the first time an it turns slow. pull the valve covers checked rocker arms set timing best we could cause the part that bolts the block is gone but we pulled the num 1 plug out to determine tdc an pointed the rotor at the 1 plug an nothing got spark an backfire out the carb what am i missing . i need the olds gods to shine down on me lol but any help would make my day it has a hei super coil torker manifold holley 750 carb an mild cam

 

Did the crank spin free after you installed the mains?
Try pulling all the plugs and turn it over. If it spins well than I would suspect maybe #1 was on exhaust stroke instead of comp stroke. If it is not that, possibly cam to crank alignment (timing gears not aligned properly). If it still spins slow, I would check the rings.

 

pulled the plugs it spined well i tried turning the dizzy got it to fire but it seems the firing order aint right even though i have checked it over an over i dont get it

 

18436572 rotor turns counter clockwise. Yes you must be sure #1 is TDC COMPRESSION stroke. While cranking rotate distributer slowly to see where it fires.

 

did that an it backfires an shoot flames out the carb an its not pumping fuel to the carb we poured fuel in the carb to try an start it its firing just not in the order it needs to fire to start i need a old priest an a young preist to come bless this car its been a fighter since i bought it

 

You would be better to fill carb bowl thru the top vent tube on the carb. Too much gas thru the throat is no good and can wash the cylinders....

 

ok didnt know that thanks im just trying to figure this thing out i have been at this for 2 days an its not running so if the cam an crank are misaligned it will never fire in correct order

 

or how can i tell if the cam an crank are not lined up right

 

Did you line up dots on crank gear and cam sprocket? They should have been at 6 and 12.

 

i did nt put parts in but im going to pull everything an check it out

 

I know you have checked it many times, but be sure that your plug wires are in Counter Clockwise order from the top of the cap, not from looking inside of it. Olds distributors turn opposite of Chebby's.

 

yeah just frustrated come home off deployment an car still aint running justs bums me out but got to get it running cause got another project to work on its not a olds but it should be alot of fun though

 

Oops, sorry, the most important thing.......... WELCOME BACK!!!! Glad you made it home safely!!! Thank you for your service to our country!!!

 

I hope you ground the crank .010 and not .10" !!

So, it spins over OK, but does not fire correctly?

I did see one case where it ran briefly then seized, because engine ASSembler did not wash the grinding crud out of the crank's oil passages. That seized tight though, not an easy spin.

Can you get a local expert to come and go over the setting of spark timing with you? It's 99% certainly the problem, and I don't get the feeling you have a deep understanding of how to set that right.

Oh, and THANKS for your service, I don't think we need to be the world's policeman [unless we get paid for it and I don't mean with $4 a gallon regular...] but I still appreciate the folks who sign up for that service!

 

i dont know any local experts here in hinesville but today the starter went out in it so off to the parts store for starter an fuel pumpcause no fuel pumping up to carb so im slowly going through everything hopefully i get this car going so i can start on my next adventurehopefully i will be here for the whole build

 

octania you are right im not very sure on olds but im giving it all i got lol im a chevy guy but fell in love with the olds so but im sure the order is right but it just wont fire

 

randy i have been looking on forums for diffrent firing orders they all say the same but if im looking at the cap should num 1 be in front or back of cap because that might be my issue when i do tdc an point the rotor to num 1 an plug everything up it backfires an no start

 

Standing in front of the car, let's call the firewall 12 o'clock, plug wire number 1 would be at approx 4:30-5:00. Wire #8 is in the next position to the right of that, then the rest 4-3-6-5-7-2.
Good luck!

 

Got it the starter was very weak replaced it an boom fired right up now on to the fuel pump but thanks all for the help

 

Glad you got it running! Feels great when they fire up.

 

come out today an is doing the same thing seems like its not firing omg this car is killing me

 

Looking for some help inserting pictures. I tried to get one on on my profile but can't figure out how to do it. Also tried to add an album but there was an error loading. Some areas are asking my for my URL http:// and I don't know what to put.

Some help if you can. Thanks