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Old Mar 22, 2020 | 03:25 PM
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Newly acquired 1970 Cutlass S

Just got this from my buddy locally.






Gonna assess what is up with everything and start posting in here. I removed myself from ROP about 7 months ago. I am not on Facebook, so I can't join Andy's group or the ROP group over there. I haven't posted much on here over the years as I always had 80s Cutlaii. Now that I have a true "classic" Olds, here I am! Glad to see some of you who used to frequent ROP are still over here...
Old Mar 22, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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Congrats! My first car was a 70 Supreme, so I'm still partial to that year.

It looks nice overall. Buff and polish and it will probably look great.
Old Mar 22, 2020 | 03:56 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2020 | 03:58 PM
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Looks like a good one. Welcome back.
Old Mar 22, 2020 | 08:12 PM
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Factory paint code 19 B on the cowl tag?? If yes, Triple black KOOL!
Old Mar 23, 2020 | 04:43 AM
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Looks great. More info and pictures when you can. Welcome.
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Old Mar 26, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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Thanks all! Here are some pics of the interior.





Old Mar 26, 2020 | 12:01 PM
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Nice pickup. Factory gold interior? Factory floor shift car?
Old Mar 26, 2020 | 01:01 PM
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Yes, that's the factory color combo (sorry droldsmorland, no triple black) and yes, originally a console/floor shift car. Fortunately, that was all saved and it is in my possession. I need to do some resto on those pieces and they will all go back in place. I also have the original SS rims with caps/retainers (gonna sell the old school Centerlines w/rubber).Resto on the SS rims to come too. Those are still in my buddy's attic. Gonna get together with him this weekend and get the rest of the miscellaneous.

Originally, it was a 350/TH350 car. He had pulled the original 350 and put a 403 together with the #6 heads (worked to bigger 2.00" intake valves and fully rebuilt). Unfortunately, blew a head gasket and got the chocolate/green milkshake in the oil pan. Right now, the 403 is sitting in there with the intake and valve covers off. It still has the ceramic coated Hooker headers hooked up to the dual exhaust. All the bracketry is removed along with the radiator and top plate. A/C box is untouched. Again, fortunately, I have all these components.

The plan is to pull the 403, put in the warmed over 455 that's in the silver car and finish the interior. I would need to acquire BBO bracketry OR modify late model SBO bracketry and change to a Sanden R4 style instead of the old A6. I would like it to look like a stock 455 factory install, but using the old axial style compressor seems like a step backward if I'm gonna go through all the trouble. Opinions?

Anyway, the main objective will be to get it roadworthy and finish the interior (I want working A/C, because, well Florida)

This is just the project I have wanted for a lonnngggggg time.
Old Mar 26, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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Congrats on your recent acquisition and good luck with your project...
Old Mar 26, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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That's quite a cool color combo. I don't think I've ever witnessed a 70 Code 19/B with a gold interior. Sharp!

As long as you don't mix-match big and small block accessory brackets, the 350s will bolt up to the 455.

Call one of the old car specialty suppliers...Class Air or Vintage Air. They may have the conversion t to adapt the A6 to R4. If you are concerned with factor correct then A6.
Old Mar 26, 2020 | 03:36 PM
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I have the original A6 and all the original hardware. Are A6 compressors even available anymore? This one is toast. I do have two cases of R12...
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 05:56 AM
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Nice!! You can get a-6 compressors as a rebuilt unit. That's what I did and converted to R134. It is ok but I think using a newer axial compressor might have been a better way if I had it to do all over....
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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Congrats on your acquisition! Very cool project for sure! Can't wait to follow the progress on bringing her back
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
Nice!! You can get a-6 compressors as a rebuilt unit. That's what I did and converted to R134. It is ok but I think using a newer axial compressor might have been a better way if I had it to do all over....
Anyone have a known good source for rebuilt A6 compressors? I don't think having the original rebuilt will matter. It's getting a 455 anyway...
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 02:43 PM
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Congrats on your acquisition! Very cool project for sure! Can't wait to follow the progress on bringing her back
Thanks! I will post progress/questions/pics in this thread.
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rfpowerdude
Anyone have a known good source for rebuilt A6 compressors? I don't think having the original rebuilt will matter. It's getting a 455 anyway...
I bought a reman from a local AC shop called AAPAC. Don't know what's available in your area.
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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Classic Auto Air or Vintage Auto Air. Do some Googling and see what separates the two, Good reviews with either.
Old Mar 31, 2020 | 07:54 PM
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A6

You can get rebuilt or new from Rock Auto. It's a Four Seasons part so should be available from most parts stores.
Old Apr 1, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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Thanks for the replies all, I will check into the Four Seasons reman'd units from RockAuto
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Good looking car, lots of luck!
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:32 AM
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Finally gonna post in here again. Progress! I have the 455 that was originally built for the silver car now rebuilt after a spun rod bearing and some other issues. Mark Remmel to the rescue. It's going into the '70. Mark got the shortblock done in August along with refreshing the heads. I have been gathering parts and finally have the heads on and valvetrain adjusted over this past weekend. Cam came in 1° advanced with the timing set at 4° advanced. Just about perfect for me. All rockers adjusted to 1/2 turn past seat. Next up is to get the intake, valve covers and oil pan blasted and completely clean and finish assembly. I will head to Mark's shop in the next coupla weeks for a dyno session to get the new Brawler carb and Progression Ignition distributor tuned. Then back home to get cleaned and painted. I have 4 cans of the Olds 1970 blue. Can be seen in the background of the cylinder head pic below.











Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:37 AM
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Just noticed I am missing a pic of all of the head bolts torqued. Believe me, they are on there and torqued to 85lb.ft.
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 09:44 AM
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Coming along. All progress is good progress.
Old Oct 10, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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Great pictures! Nicely framed and in focus, very pleasing to look at.
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Been a few months for this thread. I've done a bunch of fixing wiring, underhood cleanup/rerouting and interior stuff. I also got the new rims/tires on and new shocks on 4 corners. I removed and disposed the gas tank as it was full of rust, rusty gas, watery gas, and the filler neck was about to rust off. I also located all of the parts to put the interior center console back in with a new shifter cable. I REALLY didn't realize how slowly this was going to go. However, here it is in pics with captions...
Then, when I got it:


After A LOT of scrounging, questions on here, cursing, finagling, etc. to get the original console and shifter back in. This required a new shifter cable.

Above, I also removed the underdash added on crap gauges and aftermarket tach. I fixed a bunch of interior hacked up wiring back to original. The wires hanging out will be dispositioned and tucked away.

Removed these busted up pieces


...to put this piece in after I paint it (thanks to rickw30!)


How's this for NASTY?



I have identified the replacement tank, pump, sender, etc. to complete the fuel system by Tanks Inc.

Before: underhood hackery...



After




Trans fluid drained, cleaned up, new filter and some major dents beat back out of the pan.



Going to put in a universal drain plug for future fluid drain capabilities without the mess.


New trans cooling lines from Inline Tube

Hopefully, I won't have to tweak on them much.

Recent outside pic after a rinse:


Next is the red 455 install. Awaiting the headers to arrive on Wednesday March 13th. Install will be the weekend of the 16th.

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Old Mar 11, 2024 | 03:15 PM
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Nice work, I really like that color combination.
Old Mar 11, 2024 | 03:24 PM
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Nice work, I really like that color combination.
Thanks! I love the black over gold too. Then again, my Alma mater is UCF so I may be a little biased😎

Original colors are gold vinyl top over Galleon gold paint over gold interior. It was painted black 30 years ago with a black vinyl roof put on. The car belonged to my office mate at the time and they did a great job at the paint shop. There are now some rust issues that will eventually get fixed when I do a frame off and do it up right. For now, it is just going back together completely mechanically correct and will be driven for a little while before getting blown apart for the final resto.
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Update from over the weekend.
Preparation for mating these two together. Bracketry test fit to make sure I am not missing anything.


Hedman Headers to be installed with the engine/trans.


Mated and part way in. Yes, I pulled the oil filter right after this pic along with the filter housing to make the headers easier to get in.


On the mounts! With headers hanging in there with one or two temporary bolts.


I made my first SS braided hose end to get ready for the fuel supply from the hard line. I already installed a hard line to -6 AN adapter on the fuel line under the hood.



Braided line assembly is a PITA without the right tools so a coupla days before, I bought this:


Made it very easy.

Since I noticed the brake master cylinder was empty in the front reservoir and only a little in the rear reservoir, I went around and started to breaking the bleeder screws loose. Started by going around to each with a wire brush followed by soaking in Aerokroil. Then the last one (driver side front), I saw this:




See anything funny about the first wheel/brake pic?
Yes, it is missing the brake bleeder nozzle due to someone breaking it off at some time in the past. <Sigh>. So I have now ordered a new Raybestos wheel brake cylinder. Let's see what else I can break off while trying to replace the cylinder.

Question about the second pic. Is that long nut looking extension that is at the wheel end of the brake hard line supposed to be there or is that some sort of line repair from the past?
And, yes, I know literally everything should be replaced in the brake and suspension systems due to age, wear and general crustiness. I will do that once I get this thing basically back together and running again. Probably going with a complete Stage5 UMI setup front and rear ($$$$$$$).

And here is random Florida lizard hanging out greeting guests at the Burger King drive thru.


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I'm surprised you didn't lay the headers in, then drop the engine on top of them. I always do that.

I like the lizard. Looks a lot like the tree lizards here in Arizona.



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Got the new Tanks, Inc. tank with new sender and in tank pump. Awaiting some weather pak connectors to make up a quick disconnect system for the sender and pump.



I have a Mr. Gasket return style regulator for carbed apps that will be plumbed in.
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I'm surprised you didn't lay the headers in, then drop the engine on top of them. I always do that.
^^x2^^ Easiest hassle-free.

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Got the new Tanks, Inc. tank with new sender and in tank pump. Awaiting some weather pak connectors to make up a quick disconnect system for the sender and pump. I have a Mr. Gasket return style regulator for carbed apps that will be plumbed in.
Looking good.
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Fuel supply done and no leaks. And trans lines done.







Old Apr 28, 2024 | 07:13 PM
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Did the work to get the offending pieces off of the exhaust. Since it had a small block with Hooker headers before and now has a big block with Hedmans, the exhaust does not line up and runs past the headers toward the front. And it is all 100% welded front to back so I get to do all of this work under the car.




Now I have put the car back on the ground so I can finish under the hood and have it running with open headers until I am 100% finished with the drivetrain. Then I'll finish the exhaust last.

Back on the ground.


I am hoping to have all of the last of the new pieces this week. Radiator and gauges and I should be able to have it move under its own power again (albeit, with open headers).
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I just realized how messy my work area is...
Old May 6, 2024 | 03:45 PM
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Nice score, that's going to be a fun ride!
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Thanks!
Got the throttle cable/bracket/etc. worked out.Found a cheap chinese knockoff of the the Summit one. Seems to be identical.



Also got the new vapor canister mount installed without too much trouble with the dealer installed radiator overflow tank bracket relocation.


A few more things like the new gauges and O2 sensor display and it will be road worthy!
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Originally Posted by rfpowerdude

A few more things like the new gauges and O2 sensor display and it will be road worthy!
You might know this already, but if you don't dakota digital makes an expansion module to show wideband O2 data on the VHX cluster.
https://www.dakotadigital.com/index....rod/prd785.htm

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Finally have the drivetrain in and complete. No leaks, trans is filled to correct level, coolant is 50/50 and full, brakes all around are working well. I just have to finish the gauges install now. Should be road worthy at the end of next weekend.
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And gauges mounted, wires from stock harness extended, cables from uderhood and trans routed, just need a mounting location finalized and then the wires punched down and dressed out.






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