Getting my 1969 442 convertible back on the road
#41
Got the engine in. Took 2 days to get both bolts in. Hopefully I can catch a break or two and get it firing soon. Still a lot to do and I go back to work soon.
Off by that much and it took me an entire day to get it in.
Off by that much and it took me an entire day to get it in.
#42
oops take it back out...its the wrong color
I painted my 350 black w gold valve covers i thought it looked good. I did my 455 in OLDS BBO blue also nice.
Im no 69 expert but i think only big cars and the HO got a red engine, the 400 was a bronze color
I dont mind if you make it your own tho...as long as its not chevy orange it OK w me.
I painted my 350 black w gold valve covers i thought it looked good. I did my 455 in OLDS BBO blue also nice.
Im no 69 expert but i think only big cars and the HO got a red engine, the 400 was a bronze color
I dont mind if you make it your own tho...as long as its not chevy orange it OK w me.
#43
oops take it back out...its the wrong color
I painted my 350 black w gold valve covers i thought it looked good. I did my 455 in OLDS BBO blue also nice.
Im no 69 expert but i think only big cars and the HO got a red engine, the 400 was a bronze color
I dont mind if you make it your own tho...as long as its not chevy orange it OK w me.
I painted my 350 black w gold valve covers i thought it looked good. I did my 455 in OLDS BBO blue also nice.
Im no 69 expert but i think only big cars and the HO got a red engine, the 400 was a bronze color
I dont mind if you make it your own tho...as long as its not chevy orange it OK w me.
bob
#45
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Only the Hurst Olds were red, but Bright red. All the other 455's produced for 69 were Olds blue
If on the other hand your engine is a 400? It should be bronze if the plan was to keep it looking original. Is the casting on the block 396021 F ?
If on the other hand your engine is a 400? It should be bronze if the plan was to keep it looking original. Is the casting on the block 396021 F ?
#49
#50
Getting close
Finally got another day to work on her.
got the correct manifolds installed along with the power steering pump. More importantly, i got it to the point I could try to turn it over, but either I have a starter, ground or battery problem. Can't troubleshoot it, Brewers are starting. Entirely possible to get it to run by sunday. But I won't get my hopes up.
She is getting impatient.
She is getting impatient.
#52
and yep, 2 days. Would have been quicker if I had an extra set of hands. But I tried every trick I read about and made up a few others and finally got them. This series sure has been a good one, no doubt tonights game will be good too.
bob
#53
It's alive!!!!
I am giddy. I have never had an engine pop off this easy before. Still a ton to do, but what a feeling! My video is an MP4, so won't upload or I don't know how. I will try to change the format.
bob
bob
#54
Time for an update
Well I have been slowly making progress on her. I rebuilt the carb and did a compression check. I also hung the first couple parts of the front end. That is where I stopped on that end. I was not the one who took it apart, so I have never seen where or how it all goes together. That has made progress on that end tedious and a bit overwhelming at the moment, so I started in on the back. I already pulled the tank, so figured I should just finish back there. Here are some pics.
The carb rebuild in progress. The you tube video was incredibly helpful.
The rear end is out, currently at the sandblaster. If anyone can tell me what route they took to replace the brake lines here I would appreciate it.
The springs look a bit worn. On of them actually had a homemade bracket to hold it in place.
View from under the rear, here are a few pics. It may not look like it in the pics, but it is a solid car underneath. One of the main reasons my uncle bought it 20 years ago.
The underneath is solid, fenders are another matter. I knew the right rear had some bad work done that is pretty much falling apart. The bottom was done with fiberglass that is cracking up. As I was cleaning up the frame i seen this inside the fiberglass.
This is where i pulled it out. I can only assume it was used to get the right shape out of the fiberglass.
I found that the bushing tools i used on the front did not work as well as the front. I ended up using the drill bit method pointed out to me by a member here to get the rubber out. Then I used a socket in the vice and a hammer. Tighten, hit, tighten, hit and it came right out.
It is starting to look like a real car
thanks for looking
The carb rebuild in progress. The you tube video was incredibly helpful.
The rear end is out, currently at the sandblaster. If anyone can tell me what route they took to replace the brake lines here I would appreciate it.
The springs look a bit worn. On of them actually had a homemade bracket to hold it in place.
View from under the rear, here are a few pics. It may not look like it in the pics, but it is a solid car underneath. One of the main reasons my uncle bought it 20 years ago.
The underneath is solid, fenders are another matter. I knew the right rear had some bad work done that is pretty much falling apart. The bottom was done with fiberglass that is cracking up. As I was cleaning up the frame i seen this inside the fiberglass.
This is where i pulled it out. I can only assume it was used to get the right shape out of the fiberglass.
I found that the bushing tools i used on the front did not work as well as the front. I ended up using the drill bit method pointed out to me by a member here to get the rubber out. Then I used a socket in the vice and a hammer. Tighten, hit, tighten, hit and it came right out.
It is starting to look like a real car
thanks for looking
#55
Nice work! I kinda partial to this year and body style
by the way you were correct that the 455 is red in 1969 the 400 was bronze and the 350 is gold only the hurst olds got the 455 in 69 the rest of the 442s got the 400 but a 69 delta would have a red 455 as You surmised
by the way you were correct that the 455 is red in 1969 the 400 was bronze and the 350 is gold only the hurst olds got the 455 in 69 the rest of the 442s got the 400 but a 69 delta would have a red 455 as You surmised
#57
Nice work! I kinda partial to this year and body style
by the way you were correct that the 455 is red in 1969 the 400 was bronze and the 350 is gold only the hurst olds got the 455 in 69 the rest of the 442s got the 400 but a 69 delta would have a red 455 as You surmised
by the way you were correct that the 455 is red in 1969 the 400 was bronze and the 350 is gold only the hurst olds got the 455 in 69 the rest of the 442s got the 400 but a 69 delta would have a red 455 as You surmised
bob
#58
Bob you did use the correct color LOL..."IF" there was a 455 Option in the cutlass/442 it would have been Red, that's why the Hurst/olds motors are red in 1969 (68 too I believe) do what makes you happy I'm on board with that.
#59
Oh yeah, i misunderstood what I read on your post. I definately do things the way I like. Although there are times I agree with the purist mentality. Rare or special cars I think should stay original or period correct. My car is about as unspecial as a convertible 442 can be. I am trying to enjoy the process as much as the result. I have found that I am way more concerned with doing it right on this car than my last 2. I think some of that is just from reading on this site and seeing how much olds owners love their cars. Given that my last project was a 914, I should have expected it.
#61
Your work has been fun to follow along with; thanks! The pics are awesome. I have almost the exact same set of pics from my own ongoing resto
Also, another take on the red 455.. I have a project-in-waiting, red from-the-factory, 455 out of a 1968 Toronado, so there is one more use case. The VIN derivative on it is 38M600945.
Keep up the good work!
Also, another take on the red 455.. I have a project-in-waiting, red from-the-factory, 455 out of a 1968 Toronado, so there is one more use case. The VIN derivative on it is 38M600945.
Keep up the good work!
#62
My 1969 Ninety-Eight engine was RED from the factory... If I remember correctly 455 engines designated Ninety-Eight's for were pulled off the assembly and installed in the 68 & 69 Hurst Olds... that's why some had C heads with air ?
Correct me if wrong...
Correct me if wrong...
#64
it is a 33 chevy rat rod project. It is next. I plan to use the 330 that was in my 442. Should be a fun car to just do whatever I want with.
#65
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Painting inside the ears of the differential and control arms is a mistake. You're going to need to clean that out for bushing installation. Also use a bit of light oil on the bushing and mating surface to help it seat easier.
#67
i have seen trophy, twilight and viking all look close to eachother. I think there are many variables both in the paint and the picture that make them look lighter or darker. I like that twilight has that deep almost teal hint to it.
#68
nice work!!
Cleaning the underside is a Thankless, godforsaken,Miserable, ***** truker of a task, reading your thread is giving me flashbacks LOL.... but great work ! it is worth it in the end, I cleaned the entire underside of my 69 convertible while lying on my back when the body was off the frame, pure misery
but great satisfaction when done
but great satisfaction when done
#69
oh, I too like red Engines LOL
I am kinda partial to red Engines myself,
this is a 69 455 that was rebuilt for me by Hansen Racing, ( no relation) and I justsent it back to be checked over because it is taking me effing forever to build my car
this is a 69 455 that was rebuilt for me by Hansen Racing, ( no relation) and I justsent it back to be checked over because it is taking me effing forever to build my car
#70
Cleaning the underside is a Thankless, godforsaken,Miserable, ***** truker of a task, reading your thread is giving me flashbacks LOL.... but great work ! it is worth it in the end, I cleaned the entire underside of my 69 convertible while lying on my back when the body was off the frame, pure misery
but great satisfaction when done
but great satisfaction when done
#71
Oh poop. Well the good news is that my level of paint and rust removal with handtools has reached Master level.
#72
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Is all that paint POR15? If it is I'd seriously re-think having it on the brake drums. UNLESS it's the POR-15 High Temp. Other reason I wouldn't use POR on the drums is after the wheels are mounted, the heat could melt the paint to the back of the wheel and you'll have a beast of a time getting it off. I would stick to conventional high heat paint for the brake parts. And, just as an FYI POR is not impervious to brake fluid. If you get a leak it will bubble and peel large sections of the paint and it could interfere with the brake shoes. Just my thoughts.
#75
Picture worth a thousand....emotions
The brakes really kicked my ***, so when I went to take a picture of the axle about to go in, this happened. Thought it really captured how I feel about getting it to ready.
#78
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Oh Lordy, I never noticed that. Thought it was just from a smeared lens or something. Hopefully your install goes smooth. I had a bear of a time with mine till i realized that the pinion has to be tilted slightly up so the UCA bolts will slide in nicely.
#79
So far its going smooth. I was worried the upper arms were right and left because they were so far off. When i started to jack it up, the jack was a bit forward, so it pushed the yoke up. I accidentally figured it out. 1 shock and the sway bar left, then on to the tank.
#80
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If you can put jack stands under the axle and load up the trunk with some weight to simulate gas in the car, it's easier to tighten/torque the UCA bolts that way.