Custom '61 Bubbletop
#1
Custom '61 Bubbletop
We are working on a customer build of a 1961 Olds Super 88 Holiday Coupe. The owner of the car wanted something built in the style of D'Agostino's Golden Starfire. When finished, this car will be painted House of Kolor Kandy Pagan gold. The roof and side coves will be painted a slightly darker shade for contrast.
The body stayed on the chassis so I don't have photos of the work we did on the suspension, but we did clean and paint all of the front and rear suspension components. We upgraded the front drum brakes to disc, and we replaced all brake and fuel lines. The car was lowered using 90's Impala lowering springs.
The body has been modified by shaving the door handles and all trim, the fuel door has been shaved and the filler moved to inside the trunk and a radio antenna has been tunelled into the right quarter panel. We made a tube grill from 1/2 inch square stock and swapped out the factory headlights for Lucas flamethrower lights.
We modified the rear valance panel with a recessed box for the license plate, filled in the backup lights and added more of the square stock. Last, we put holes in the valance for exhaust tips.
The car is out now for a stainless exhaust system, stereo installation and a tuck and roll interior.
When its back I'll update this with the interior and the goodies under the hood.
The body stayed on the chassis so I don't have photos of the work we did on the suspension, but we did clean and paint all of the front and rear suspension components. We upgraded the front drum brakes to disc, and we replaced all brake and fuel lines. The car was lowered using 90's Impala lowering springs.
The body has been modified by shaving the door handles and all trim, the fuel door has been shaved and the filler moved to inside the trunk and a radio antenna has been tunelled into the right quarter panel. We made a tube grill from 1/2 inch square stock and swapped out the factory headlights for Lucas flamethrower lights.
We modified the rear valance panel with a recessed box for the license plate, filled in the backup lights and added more of the square stock. Last, we put holes in the valance for exhaust tips.
The car is out now for a stainless exhaust system, stereo installation and a tuck and roll interior.
When its back I'll update this with the interior and the goodies under the hood.
#4
I love 61's. In 61, my family was in Harlan Iowa for the summer. My dad was a pipeline welder so we spent many summers all over the US. The Olds dealer in town had a new Super 88 bubble top on their showroom floor. It was Fawn with Fawn interior and it had a four speed. The only one I ever saw or knew of for 61. It might have been a special order, but I remember thinking how cool it would be to have that car. Dad bought a Super 88 four door sedan, not really cool, but still a nice car.
#8
While the car is out of our hands, here's some additional photos.
There were rust issues with the car. Both rockers had rust on the bottoms and inside, so we cut them off and fabricated new ones. We also cut out the center section of the door and made a new one because of rust pinholes. There is always rust hiding where you least expect it!
Last is a photo of the console we made. The upper section has two motorized doors that open clamshell-style to cover the radio.
There were rust issues with the car. Both rockers had rust on the bottoms and inside, so we cut them off and fabricated new ones. We also cut out the center section of the door and made a new one because of rust pinholes. There is always rust hiding where you least expect it!
Last is a photo of the console we made. The upper section has two motorized doors that open clamshell-style to cover the radio.
#10
The car may still be out of our hands for the moment, but we still have parts to restore. Since the car sat for a long while there was significant rust in some areas. We had to totally remake the piece that runs between both headlight/fender supports. We threw a few beads in it for strength, and then we'll just paint it black since it won't be seen.
Both the service brake pedal assembly and e-brake pedal assembly were painted body color. Attached to each was an unpainted piece of metal. I decided to clean some of the dirt off before painting it, and on a whim I used the buffing wheel. I was surprised to see these pieces are stainless steel! You can see the before and after photos. Once the pedal assemblies are painted and these pieces are all shined up, they will look great (if anyone can actually see them).
Both the service brake pedal assembly and e-brake pedal assembly were painted body color. Attached to each was an unpainted piece of metal. I decided to clean some of the dirt off before painting it, and on a whim I used the buffing wheel. I was surprised to see these pieces are stainless steel! You can see the before and after photos. Once the pedal assemblies are painted and these pieces are all shined up, they will look great (if anyone can actually see them).
#12
Thanks for the kind words. We went to Scarebird for one of their conversion kits. They sell the plate to mount the calipers, heavy duty mounting bolts and a hub. You have to get the rotors, calipers and hoses. They tell you what rotors and calipers to use, and the ones they specify are readily available at RockAuto and NAPA, etc. It mounted right on with no problems and is strong and well made. If I recall, it cost about $700 for all the components.
One additional upgrade we did was to put in a dual piston master. This did create some clearance issues for us with the mounting bracket and the hard lines from the master cylinder hitting the inner fender, but it was easy to modify the bracket and re-bend the lines in a different orientation.
I hope this helps. Good luck with yours.
We're still waiting to get the car back from the upholstery shop. We will update this thread when we can.
One additional upgrade we did was to put in a dual piston master. This did create some clearance issues for us with the mounting bracket and the hard lines from the master cylinder hitting the inner fender, but it was easy to modify the bracket and re-bend the lines in a different orientation.
I hope this helps. Good luck with yours.
We're still waiting to get the car back from the upholstery shop. We will update this thread when we can.
#14
We are still waiting for this car to come back from the upholstery shop. The owner is using someone who is known for doing high end cars and resto work. He didn't seem pleased to be doing custom work like this and is just dragging along.
In the meantime to keep cold beer in the refrigerator we just painted a '73 Buick Riviera pearl white for one guy, we're helping another guy chop his '54 Plymouth, and we're building a '47 Chevy as a traditional custom to be a full on show car.
The other day I fired up the 3D software to attempt to model the '61 Olds as we envision it. This is just rough, more about shapes and paint materials. There are lots of details left to model.
In the meantime to keep cold beer in the refrigerator we just painted a '73 Buick Riviera pearl white for one guy, we're helping another guy chop his '54 Plymouth, and we're building a '47 Chevy as a traditional custom to be a full on show car.
The other day I fired up the 3D software to attempt to model the '61 Olds as we envision it. This is just rough, more about shapes and paint materials. There are lots of details left to model.
#15
nice 61... i was hoping maybe it was the one i sold last year.. the guy i sold it to said he would keep me up on the build .. but i havent heard a word from him yet.. i hope the guy gets on here and starts a thread... i wish i never sold that car now, it was a great car until it sat around too long...
http://s202.photobucket.com/user/rcp...1olds.jpg.html
http://s202.photobucket.com/user/rcp...1olds.jpg.html
#18
Love Those 61 Olds "Bubble-Tops"!
I am still upset with myself for selling my 61 "Bubble-Top" over 10 years ago now! I keep trying to get my current 65 Cutlass/442 to the same level, but it will never have have much style as the 61. Keep up the good work, I'm looking forward to seeing the finished project.
Here are a some pics of my 61 Olds
http://s862.photobucket.com/user/rcd...-OLDS.jpg.html
http://s862.photobucket.com/user/rcd...LDS-1.jpg.html
Here is a link to MY Olds...For Sale in the Goodguys Gazette...Only $125K
http://www.goodguysclassifieds.com/c...ynamic_88.html
Here are a some pics of my 61 Olds
http://s862.photobucket.com/user/rcd...-OLDS.jpg.html
http://s862.photobucket.com/user/rcd...LDS-1.jpg.html
Here is a link to MY Olds...For Sale in the Goodguys Gazette...Only $125K
http://www.goodguysclassifieds.com/c...ynamic_88.html
Last edited by rcdynamic88; January 22nd, 2015 at 08:44 PM.
#21
Someone must have seen the (John D'Agostino Built Olds) Images of the 1961 Bubble Top that are on the Internet,and he has a '57 and a '58 olds all done in gold. The '61 can be seen at Bonhams.com '61 OLDSMOBILE Super 88. Larry
Last edited by Rocketowner; January 23rd, 2015 at 05:18 PM. Reason: Add Info
#22
Thanks to everyone who is still following this. Believe it or not, we still haven't gotten the car back from the upholstery shop, they have had it for over a year. The owner of the car chose this place, and we know they had all of the fabrics and materials (including the carpet) before the car went there. We have a couple of shelves full of parts, hopefully the car comes back before we forget where everything goes!
"...Someone must have seen the (John D'Agostino Built Olds) Images of the 1961 Bubble Top..."
That is correct, the owner wants his car in the style of the Golden Starfire. The plan is to give him something that resembles it but is not a copy. We were fortunate to meet the then-owner of the Golden Starfire at a show in Westport, CT in 2009, so we had a chance to crawl around the car and get a sense of what was done to it.
When (if?) we get the car back I'll post updates. Thanks again for staying interested in this project. Personally I can't wait to get back on this one.
"...Someone must have seen the (John D'Agostino Built Olds) Images of the 1961 Bubble Top..."
That is correct, the owner wants his car in the style of the Golden Starfire. The plan is to give him something that resembles it but is not a copy. We were fortunate to meet the then-owner of the Golden Starfire at a show in Westport, CT in 2009, so we had a chance to crawl around the car and get a sense of what was done to it.
When (if?) we get the car back I'll post updates. Thanks again for staying interested in this project. Personally I can't wait to get back on this one.
#24
We finally got the car back, after almost two years! I think the owner was tired of hearing the upholsterer say he needed "a little more time". Of course the car came as it was getting ready to snow, and we already have a '63 Caddy in the shop for some rust repair, so it will be a few weeks before we get started. In the meantime here is a quick pic.
We still have to get the car in the shop and do an assessment of its condition. Because of the snow that was on the ground the car is in my friend's house garage (his shop is out back).
The first order of business will be to pull the interior and store it safely, then get to work under the hood do all the wiring and hoses and belts and get everything running and safe.
We still have to get the car in the shop and do an assessment of its condition. Because of the snow that was on the ground the car is in my friend's house garage (his shop is out back).
The first order of business will be to pull the interior and store it safely, then get to work under the hood do all the wiring and hoses and belts and get everything running and safe.
#26
Here's a little update on the Olds. We haven't forgotten about it, but as we told the owner, there hasn't been much to see. We've been hiding lines and wires, and tuning and adjusting things under the hood and behind the dash. But luckily there are a few 'goodies'.
We have some pics of the power steering fluid reservoir that we made. It fits between the battery and the headlight bucket. Also there is a shot of the bulkhead fittings for the a/c unit. We hid the hard lines inside the inner fender. Also a few shots of the engine compartment as we get closer to firing it up.
I apologize in advance if the photos aren't in order. Cars are my hobby, not computers.
Thanks for following this thread.
We have some pics of the power steering fluid reservoir that we made. It fits between the battery and the headlight bucket. Also there is a shot of the bulkhead fittings for the a/c unit. We hid the hard lines inside the inner fender. Also a few shots of the engine compartment as we get closer to firing it up.
I apologize in advance if the photos aren't in order. Cars are my hobby, not computers.
Thanks for following this thread.
#28
Here's an update on our project. The engine runs, the brakes work and all of the wiring is (so far) holding up. The last bit of metal fabrication is the hood. This is one ugly large boring panel, so we added a pair of scoops. The trick here is not to make the scoops look too modern or too street rod, and because there are only straight lines on the hood we don't want the scoops curvy.
Once again we used the body side scallop as a design shape (like with the console and the air cleaner we made) and with the help of a simple hammer-form shaped the back end of the scoops. The scoops are low and the hood will be hammered down slightly in front of each scoop. The opening will be finished off with thin square tubing similar to the grill that we made.
After this we'll be on to bodywork and paint!
For all of you "hard core" types, the next issue, #70, of The Rodders Journal will feature an article about us and the clone of the Kopper Kart that we built several years ago. So check it out!
Once again we used the body side scallop as a design shape (like with the console and the air cleaner we made) and with the help of a simple hammer-form shaped the back end of the scoops. The scoops are low and the hood will be hammered down slightly in front of each scoop. The opening will be finished off with thin square tubing similar to the grill that we made.
After this we'll be on to bodywork and paint!
For all of you "hard core" types, the next issue, #70, of The Rodders Journal will feature an article about us and the clone of the Kopper Kart that we built several years ago. So check it out!
#30
love the clips of the 57's on your page.. i was from south jersey, my uncle and i both had 57 chevies in the early and mid 60's.. wish i had some pics.. but cameras were hard to come by in those days.. someone once sent me a pic taken at acto of my car but the computer it was on fried and i lost it..
#33
Oh..and I've got the original grill from this 61 for sale on Ebay right now, it was re-plated, a nice job, too. But we are going with the tube grill instead. Make me an offer!
My chopped 55 Olds, now sitting waiting resto.
A 56 Ford ragtop I restored/customixed, done in pearl paints to match the factory colors
The Kopper Kart, at the Fairfile CT concours show
My buddy's 70 Skylark convertible, in Candy Brandywine
My 61 Dodge, a custom that was being built by the guy who taught me how to do custom bodywork and paint, John Pazsik. A local legend! A friend found it sitting and rotting, unfinished, and got it for me. Finished it up with Metalflake Fuschia and Pearl white interior, and mixed up some Candy paint to match the Fuschia, and "panel painted" it along with Abalone Metalflake.
#34
Hope everyone had a fun and safe July 4! We kept busy all weekend with a few projects:
Some nice kandy Pagan gold was sprayed on the inside of the 61 Olds trunk lid; the 63 Caddy has a no-holds-barred roof treatment; and the 47 Chevy even received some attention. The front clip is off so we can weld some inner structure and detail the chassis and engine compartment.
Some nice kandy Pagan gold was sprayed on the inside of the 61 Olds trunk lid; the 63 Caddy has a no-holds-barred roof treatment; and the 47 Chevy even received some attention. The front clip is off so we can weld some inner structure and detail the chassis and engine compartment.
#35
After some fits and starts we are back on the car and it will be job one until it is finished. After an additional 50 or so hours of body work we finally got color!
We called the pinstriper and told him to oil up the brushes, we'll be needing him in a few weeks. We've got the motor running and tuned, once the paint is cut and buffed we'll be into final assembly. Fingers crossed!
We called the pinstriper and told him to oil up the brushes, we'll be needing him in a few weeks. We've got the motor running and tuned, once the paint is cut and buffed we'll be into final assembly. Fingers crossed!
#37
More than a little interested on how this one turns out.
btw I like what you did with the rear valence.....I plan on filling in the HUGE backup lights and thought about deleting them altogether but maybe a smaller light will do. I like the ribs you've added also. The whole effect is what I like on a "custom" is wondering what is stock and what has been changed.
btw I like what you did with the rear valence.....I plan on filling in the HUGE backup lights and thought about deleting them altogether but maybe a smaller light will do. I like the ribs you've added also. The whole effect is what I like on a "custom" is wondering what is stock and what has been changed.
Last edited by 61Bat; December 28th, 2017 at 10:27 PM.
#39
We made a tube grille that consists of an outer bar around the outside of the headlights framing the opening, and five horizontal bars going across the inside of the headlights, each one cut to length so the ends make a semi-circle around the inside edge of the headlights.
Unfortunately I never took a picture of it. If I do I'll post it.
Thanks for following the build.