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Old July 2nd, 2013, 04:47 PM
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64 Olds 98 Holiday Cp

I started another thread and a member told me to start a build thread also. So here it goes. Let me tell you a little history. My husband and I bought this car several years ago. Its a 1964 Oldsmobile 98 Holiday Cp. 52756 original miles. 2 door Automatic 394 V8 4bbl rochester carb. No air. with a Roto Hydramatic 375 (slim jim) transmission. We went to several car shows and enjoyed our time together doing it. Then one day, husband decided he wanted to have engine redone, he said, for the reason was about, something to do with not having to put an additive in it anymore. but really, I think he wanted to change other things to. He decided that while it was apart, he would paint the engine, and pieces before putting them back on the car. Anyhow he tore it down, took off hood, fenders, bolts, screws, you name it, and parts and pieces were everywhere. Believe me, I mean everywhere. Of course he knew where each and every piece and part went. He got ill, went to the doctor and was diagnosed with cancer. He fought a brave hard fight but six months later he passed away. I wanted to be there helping him with the car but at the time I was taking care of my mother who had alzheimers. The most devastating thing happened. I lost them both in the same month, year, and within two weeks of each other. It was a very hard time for me after losing them both and still is. I didn't care much about anything. My world had been shattered. I was going to sale everything. I had lots of family and friends that came to help me get things organized. They went through the garage and sheds, cleaning and was throwing things out from the garage. I wasn't even thinking right then. I was numb most of the time. The least of my worries was about the car. Now, I have gotten through the rough times, and things have gotten better, and I was thinking, he would be so proud to see the car back together and running, and I think it will do me good also. I have so many good memories with him in it. So starting this thread and asking anyone out there for their help. I didn't have much knowledge when it came to vechiles let alone this one. I have search the internet for parts, looked through manuals, looked at pics, went through and found parts and pieces, so I'am learning fast. I got a couple of friends that are helping put the car back together. We had found many parts and pieces but alot of them we had no clue where they went on the car. On the other post I made I asked for anyone who might have any pics of a 1964 Olds 98 to please posts them. Pics shows so much. Close ups are good, cause it lets us see where certain pieces will go or does go. I have the 1964 Olds service manual but it only shows so much. Its hard when you don't have much knowledge of a 64 Olds and always harder trying to put something back together, that someone else tore apart. Then we weren't sure what might be missing from the clean out. God bless the members here, they came through for us. Still in the beginning stages, much more to do, but things are starting to come along nicely. I know we will probably need more help before it's finished. I'm posting pics up to this point, and will post as we go. This is one big job but the reward in the end will be worth it.

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Old July 2nd, 2013, 04:55 PM
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here some pics

Here are some pics
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 05:28 PM
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Your husband was doing a very nice job on this car. All the front end looks spectacular. I notice somebody has put a dual master cylinder on the car. That is a good thing. I am not usually too much on big cars but this one is beautiful. It was also built the year I graduated from high school. This thing is going to be a great cruiser.
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You should be proud of what you are doing, and your husband would really be proud! That car will be beautiful when it is done! You will find many we'll versed members here pertaining to your 98!
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 09:53 PM
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Engine pictures

I think it's great that your friends will put your late husband's car back together.
It says a lot about the man, that he would have friends that would be willing to do all that work in his memory.
Here are a few pictures that I pirated off E-Bay that may help you. They are all from a 1964 Olds 98 Sport coupe.

See next post for more pics.
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 09:59 PM
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More pics

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Old July 2nd, 2013, 10:04 PM
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And a few more

Hope this helps.
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I re-read your post and noticed that you said your car was a non A/C car.
Here's a few more pics of non A/C cars, mostly "63's, but everything is pretty much the same.
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I did not notice the non A/C. The car had to be sold somewhere in the north when it was new. Nobody would buy that level of car in the south without A/C. I see it is in PA so that makes sense.
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Here's a little more help.
These are from the 1963 Olds Master Parts Catalog. They would be typical of 1964 models.
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Nice work Charlie!
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Looks great ! And Thanks! I needed to see what the AC/ alternator brackets looked like since I will be using those on my build.
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Old August 21st, 2013, 07:26 PM
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NAS Backyard, here's a few more of parts illustrations of A/C brackets for you. They are 63 but would be typical of 61-64.
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Should have included this one. Not the one of the bumper,
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Really great pics thank you very much Charlie. Like I said the members here have been wonderful with all their help this has been and awesome site and everyone has been so helpful and friendly. I did search the vin# and the car is a northern car. It never had air. Not sure if air can be installed but really would be nice to have if it can be put on even tho the car originally didn't have it. Not sure how much trouble it would be to do. Something I need to look into. Car is coming along nicely. Hoping to be able to go crusin again real soon. My workers had a little delay with vacations and other responsibilities but looking to have her up and running real soon. Thanks again Pat
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Originally Posted by metoo
Really great pics thank you very much Charlie. Like I said the members here have been wonderful with all their help this has been and awesome site and everyone has been so helpful and friendly. I did search the vin# and the car is a northern car. It never had air. Not sure if air can be installed but really would be nice to have if it can be put on even tho the car originally didn't have it. Not sure how much trouble it would be to do. Something I need to look into. Car is coming along nicely. Hoping to be able to go crusin again real soon. My workers had a little delay with vacations and other responsibilities but looking to have her up and running real soon. Thanks again Pat
If you do decide to install A/C this would be my advice. Try to get a "parts car" with A/C and take all the parts associated with the A/C system off of it and have them professionally rebuilt. Then install them in your car.
The "parts car" should ideally be a 1964 full size car ( not F-85 or Cutlass). A 63 might be used but some components may not fit.
The parts associated with an A/C system include the following, the condenser assembly (in front of the radiator), The radiator itself, (must have the "4 core " radiator), water pump, crank balancer (3 groove), water pump pulley (2 groove), alternator and regulator (52 amp). In addition you will have to have the compressor and all the brackets that hold it and the alternator to the engine. The hose assemblies can be salvaged and have new rubber swedged on by any company that makes A/C hoses.
You will need all the heater components from under the hood as well as under the dash. You will need the heater control assembly. You will also need the evaporator from the rt. cowl area. you will need all the ducting from the dash and the dash air outlets.
In addition, you will need to cut a couple of holes in the firewall using the "parts car" as a guide.
Now you could put one of those aftermarket "street rod" A/C systems in it. But, I personally think they are kinda "cheesy" and certainly no match for an original "Frigidaire" A/C system.
It's been said that those "Frigidaire" A/C' s could freeze the butt off a brass monkey on a hot day!

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Thanks Charlie, what I'm doing is adding Vintage Air but I'm also upgrading to an alternator onmy 61 Olds . It looks like I can easily adapt the Sanden 508 to the stock compressor location. I have the parts located but there in the trunk of the car so I need pics to make sure I get all the pieces. Thanks, the pictures will be a BIG help.
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Hey Patty, I'm glad to hear it's coming together nicely for you. It was my pleasure to help you. I enjoyed talking with you and I hope you will be cruising soon. I finally got my race car started last week. I am really pumped up to get it to the track- Dave
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Vintage Air has reproduced the Mark IV which was probably the most popular add on under dash A/C ever made. I think it would work well using the Sanden compressor. I will put one in the 54 next year. It gets too hot in Texas to even drive with the top up.
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Update. She up and going strong. She got washed and took her today for her first cruise. Plan another for tomorrow if not raining. A very big thank you goes out to Dave for the parts and all your help it was greatly appreciated and all the others who took the time to post pics and for the responses to my questions. I'm so proud and it has brought tears of joy to my eyes and I know he's been right there looking down on this project and probably even coming along for the ride. Words can't say how I feel. Thank you all. Pat.
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She is purdee. The car really looks great. The engine is outstanding. Your husband would be very proud. Yeh, he is probably riding shotgun. It is an outstanding car. Enjoy it. You deserve it.
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Old August 31st, 2013, 10:03 PM
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X2 on what redoldsman said. Now all you have to do is drive the heck out it and enjoy every minute! Please keep all of us informed of any special trips you make, or plan to, with this car.
I was glad to help.
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Great to see that beautiful car back on the road!
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