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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 06:18 AM
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1971 442 New purchase Cali car unfinished project, project

Hello all bought another car oh joy i cant wait for the fun!
Picked up a 1971 442 from cali.
Owner has it Since 81. He also had a 1970 442 he sold in dec/jan maybe another member? it is burgundy car with 60k went to east coast some where, guys name is John.
The gentlemen is tired of Cali politics getting up in age and selling his cars and moving had a 65 442 also thats he sold recently.
The car is code 19 ebony black with Black bucket seat interior. has an 8 track too
W25 Hood Auto The Owner did some work over the years Engine rebuild, stripped paint epoxy primed Suspension, fuel tank cleaned, he accumulated many parts seat covers, door panels for interior, weather strip emblems etc.
This one has a nice dash as far as i can tell, Needs sport wheel in my opinion and those SS1's are going back on for sure.
Here are some pics from the buyer still in cali waiting on transport.
First car im buying that has a "True Pink slip".







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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 03:09 PM
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Looks pretty clean from here. Post some more pics.
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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 04:58 PM
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Looks like air shocks on the rear. I had those back in the 80s to keep the rear from sagging due to worn out springs. Made for a rougher ride but easy to level the car when transporting lots of friends and gear. At the time I had no idea a set of springs were cheap and easy to install.
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Yes I saw the Air shocks too.
remember this guy has had the car since 81
also more importantly is the view of the boxed control arms!

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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 05:11 PM
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This is what I plan to do to the 71 same look.
Maybe no spoiler tho but definitely red stripes on black paint

Before paint when I first bought this one years ago



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Old Aug 15, 2020 | 05:20 PM
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Yes I saw the Air shocks too.
remember this guy has had the car since 81
also more importantly is the view of the boxed control arm
That’s about the same time I put air shocks on my car.
Old Aug 15, 2020 | 06:20 PM
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That’s about the same time I put air shocks on my car.
Yeah we all did that didn’t we.
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 04:28 AM
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Looks like a good project. Congrats!
A friend of mine said "always start with a car that has as little rust as possible and it will make the project much easier and less expensive"
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 07:41 AM
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Yes good advice
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 09:12 AM
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Yeah we all did that didn’t we.
No, some of us used coil over load leveler shocks, with and/ or added station wagon springs. Air shocks suck...
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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No, some of us used coil over load leveler shocks, with and/ or added station wagon springs. Air shocks suck...
Air shockS are fine , you just can’t fill them up too much.
they do serve a purpose to lift the car for huge tires lol.
I should have said a lot of people did.
not for everyone, have not used them in years tho.

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Old Aug 16, 2020 | 08:22 PM
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No, some of us used coil over load leveler shocks, with and/ or added station wagon springs. Air shocks suck...
and then there were those of us that were poverty strickened and just stuck 2x4 blocks between the coils.lol
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Congrats on the purchase. Nice find! Nothing a clean California car to start with.

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Looks like a good project. Congrats!
A friend of mine said "always start with a car that has as little rust as possible and it will make the project much easier and less expensive"
Judging by your current build thread, you didnt listen to him :-)
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Well finally Hired a better shipping company the first one wasted a weeks time .
Never showed up then the next day they wanted double the cost.
Got a good company from another member.
Getting picked up today.

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JOHNNYOLDS442 - I saw on the "Good Morning Thread" that your 71 442 project car is on the way from Cali. Congrats and good luck with the project! Keep us apprised with some pics as you move through the project, it's always great to see the transformation as the car is brought back to life.
Old Aug 19, 2020 | 10:21 AM
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JOHNNYOLDS442 - I saw on the "Good Morning Thread" that your 71 442 project car is on the way from Cali. Congrats and good luck with the project! Keep us apprised with some pics as you move through the project, it's always great to see the transformation as the car is brought back to life.
Thanks ! You know I will. Already bought some goodies

Stuff waiting



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JOHNNY - Glad you're able to get a jump start on several of the parts you'll need for your resto. I thought it was quite the coincidence that the previous owner threw in a set of SS1's with the deal. When I bought my 67 last November, the owner threw in a complete set of like new SS1's with like new BF Goodrich T/A 235 60r 15's on them (pic). Right now my car has 17" REV polished aluminum torque thrust style wheels on it. About a week ago I ran a poll on the "Good morning thread" and asked the guys which wheels they liked better and they overwhelmingly preferred the SS1's, so I'm going to give them a try. I had to order the proper steel shell lug nuts because the previous owner did not give me a set. I was able to get a nice looking set from JEGS. I included a pic of one of the packages so you could look up the part number if you need to order some. Just curious what size tires you're putting on your car, I couldn't read the tire size in the pic you posted? Again, good luck with the project!


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JOHNNY - Glad you're able to get a jump start on several of the parts you'll need for your resto. I thought it was quite the coincidence that the previous owner threw in a set of SS1's with the deal. When I bought my 67 last November, the owner threw in a complete set of like new SS1's with like new BF Goodrich T/A 235 60r 15's on them (pic). Right now my car has 17" REV polished aluminum torque thrust style wheels on it. About a week ago I ran a poll on the "Good morning thread" and asked the guys which wheels they liked better and they overwhelmingly preferred the SS1's, so I'm going to give them a try. I had to order the proper steel shell lug nuts because the previous owner did not give me a set. I was able to get a nice looking set from JEGS. I included a pic of one of the packages so you could look up the part number if you need to order some. Just curious what size tires you're putting on your car, I couldn't read the tire size in the pic you posted? Again, good luck with the project!

Thanks, mine are 14’s, the only size closest to Factory 225/70-14.
Its the only size I use when running 14’s.
It’s the height that fits the wheel well best.
60’s look too small.
The guy I bought the car from was moving so he gave me a few extra items.
The wheels , extra back window glass, 69 tail lights,


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Let me know if you're in the market for an OEM spoiler to match the black car.
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Car arrived

So the car arrived driver broke my grille surround and bumped the hood.
So

Broke grille surround

Nice window lol

Correct lower base air cleaner

Bump on Hood from shipper

Weird filler tube angle never seen that anybody else see a bent oil filler tube?
So far I got $200 for the Broken part.
working on the hood claim.
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Gm dash bead was in car

Manual

Nice 8 track

Time to get the wheels mounted these are hideous

Gm Rad Hose Clamp


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Nice score on your 442! Looks like a good solid car. That "bent" oil filler tube is '68 only along with your intake & carb. It has the divorced choke coil mounted to the intake last used in '69. I also noticed that your a/c compressor brackets are wrong for an a-body, they're for a big car. Did you check the vin #s stamped on the block?, That will tell you the year but it looks like you have a '68 engine from an 88 or 98. '68 engines will have C heads.

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Nice score, if its a 442, the air cleaner base is not correct..
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Nice score, if its a 442, the air cleaner base is not correct..
oh no?? why is that? it has the holes in the base for drainage?

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 06:12 AM
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Nice score on your 442! Looks like a good solid car. That "bent" oil filler tube is '68 only along with your intake & carb. It has the divorced choke coil mounted to the intake last used in '69. I also noticed that your a/c compressor brackets are wrong for an a-body, they're for a big car. Did you check the vin #s stamped on the block?, That will tell you the year but it looks like you have a '68 engine from an 88 or 98. '68 engines will have C heads.
Yes i know it is not the orig Engine the Gentleman said he had it rebuilt to 70 specs's. 10:1/2 to 1
Why would you say its from an 88 or 98 without providing you any numbers just because of a bracket?
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I am wondering how the center of the stone shield was broken. Seems as if the bumper would have to be pushed in quite a bit for that to happen.

Yep, the center of the bumper is pushed in but hard to tell from this picture if that's enough to break the stone shield. It's easy to straighten the bumper - I had to do that on both my 70 Supreme and the 71 convertible. Just need to pull the center out with a come-along, chain attached to a tree, etc.
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I am wondering how the center of the stone shield was broken. Seems as if the bumper would have to be pushed in quite a bit for that to happen.

Yep, the center of the bumper is pushed in but hard to tell from this picture if that's enough to break the stone shield. It's easy to straighten the bumper - I had to do that on both my 70 Supreme and the 71 convertible. Just need to pull the center out with a come-along, chain attached to a tree, etc.
The owner left bumper loose that’s not his fault that the other guy hit the car though so thank God he did leave it loose Otherwise it would be bent otherwise it would be bent because it pushed in enough to crack the surround.

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Got rid of those hideous wheels

New tires, installed driver glass Carb needs attention Ordered tail pipe hangers Carpet came in and steering wheel.
also cleaned the interior out.
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Body pretty straight

Needs rear bumper bad front will suffice

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Nose Damage and few pics
engine is pad

Bump on hood shot

Engine id 68? 5th digit 8=68?

Trunk pretty clean

Broken grille from toe driver

Cracked top of surround too

Interior needs attention
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I believe 68 from the second digit 3=Oldsmobile 8=1968 C=plant assembly. I could be totally wrong also?
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I believe 68 from the second digit 3=Oldsmobile 8=1968 C=plant assembly. I could be totally wrong also?
You are correct.
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Cool thanks guys so it’s a 68 Engine
with a 69 carb
here are the three I got with the car I took the 69 off just now

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That "C" on your engine stamping shows Southgate California as the assembly plant. According to the service manual that plant produced Delmonts & Delta 88s for Olds
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My post contained erroneous information, so I deleted it.



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That "C" on your engine stamping shows Southgate California as the assembly plant. According to the service manual that plant produced Delmonts & Delta 88s for Olds
Great, now i have a boat motor.
lol, Get it “large car” boat?
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The bad thing is if it still has the original C heads they're the small valves.
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You can have the large 2.07 int 1.68 exh valves put in those small valve C Heads.
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The guy that owned the car before said the engine was rebuilt to '70 specs maybe they did the valves then??
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The guy that owned the car before said the engine was rebuilt to '70 specs maybe they did the valves then??
Well I ain’t taking it apart to check!
can you do a simple compression test?



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