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Old Sep 9, 2025 | 12:55 PM
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Well, this is "legendary"...

From the Legendary website. Great search engine you have there.



Old Sep 9, 2025 | 01:11 PM
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With a strong emphasis on the "A" in AI!
Old Sep 9, 2025 | 06:23 PM
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I doubt this has anything to do with AI. Legendary apparently differentiates between F85, Cutlass, Cutlass S, Cutlass Supreme, 442, and Vista in their applicability database. Despite what the title of the item listing says, these visors are only in their database as fitting F85, Cutlass S, and 442. My search criteria was for Cutlass (sans "S" since it's my 69 wagon). First pass on their website yielded no repro visors. I did a separate search with Google and got this item, which still remembered my vehicle. Never mind that the parts book shows that all Olds A-body cars except convertibles take the same visors.
Old Sep 9, 2025 | 08:12 PM
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Chris - I could see AI playing a role, possibly. After all, AI is simple data mining. In the broadest of contexts most (many) end-users perceive AI (data mining) as something which only exists on the World Wide Web from search engine queries. The reality is we've been data mining for many years. The challenge(s) exist(s) in defining the algorithms which query the data mines. In Joe's example, in particular employing Google, you might likely find differing results on the many other Browsers, as well. Yet, the results of any search will be limited by the algorithm(s) employed in statistical queries. It's evident which vendors spend $$ on website development. From a historical perspective, it is far, far, far few & between will you ever meet a website developer who knows anything about databases. To be good at this game, only website developers who know how to query databases & assemble results will survive the AI world.
Old Sep 10, 2025 | 06:34 AM
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These kinds of catalog oversights have existed since long before AI. After all, the only cars Olds ever built were 1968-72 Cutlass S and 442 2drs and convertibles.

And from another site: AI stands for Always Incorrect.
Old Sep 10, 2025 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream67Olds442
With a strong emphasis on the "A" in AI!
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I doubt this has anything to do with AI.
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
These kinds of catalog oversights have existed since long before AI.

And from another site: AI stands for Always Incorrect.
Joe - My original post was intended as a joke, which obviously didn't land, but I think we eventually got there based on your last sentence above.
Old Sep 10, 2025 | 07:22 PM
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Got it, I was a little slow...
Old Sep 11, 2025 | 07:14 PM
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At least in my mind, AI is old wine in new bottles as was “knowledge engineering” and “neural networks” before it.

Watch as Joe’s “truth decay” accelerates until the stock market loses faith in the mantra of using computers that don’t want pay or healthcare. When that happens, I’m expecting a shortage of trained people where companies bet on AI. It’s good for programming thus far. Other uses, I’m not yet convinced.

From what I’ve seen they’re all just multivariate statistical models predicting, well, something, programmed by well, someone. As in so many things, quality of targets, data, programmers varies, ergo value varies. But then, the smart ones probably aren’t talking. And the ones talking, well, y’know.

Worst I’ve heard so far of “AI” were 2 stories
1) guy busted for using a call center in India and billing it as “AI”. Which lead to the joke about AI meaning “Actual Indians”

2) large well known SF company using people to subjectively judge the outputs from a call routing system in terms of quality. Nothing artificial about human brains judging algorithm outputs.

Other old timer quote: “All models have error rates. Some models are useful.”

Just my $.02
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Old Sep 12, 2025 | 02:46 PM
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Their online catalog has been somewhere between awful and terrible for years. Just pick up the phone and call them.
Honestly, while I do prefer Legendary's products for the other guys... Their customer service (the website is included in this) is really not great.
ou are much better dealing with a reseller or dealer of legendary's products than directly with legendary itself- this is ESPECIALLY true if you have an actual warranty or quality issue.

That's just my own experience.. mileage may vary.

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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMBOW
Their online catalog has been somewhere between awful and terrible for years. Just pick up the phone and call them.
Honestly, while I do prefer Legendary's products for the other guys... Their customer service (the website is included in this) is really not great.
ou are much better dealing with a reseller or dealer of legendary's products than directly with legendary itself- this is ESPECIALLY true if you have an actual warranty or quality issue.

That's just my own experience.. mileage may vary.

-Ben
Yeah, I was planning on just sitting down with them at Carlisle in a couple of weeks.
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