Are there other 75 H/Os or Cutlass ordered minus a Radio

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Old Nov 6, 2024 | 06:41 AM
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Are there other 75 H/Os or Cutlass ordered minus a Radio

Just curious as I am the second owner of a 1975 Hurst Olds W-25. It was ordered without a Radio option. I am thinking this would be a rare occurance maybe even a 1 of 1! LOL Original owner said he bought it off the Dealer lot that way so I assume someone at the dealer may have forgot to check a box. Hard to beleive it was specked out intentionally without a radio in 1975. Below is a Pic of what it looks like without one. Plan to keep it that way as it is a original 47000 mile car unrestored, original paint car. Please let me know if anyone else has one like this as I am curious.
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Old Nov 6, 2024 | 08:12 AM
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It's not a one of one, and there is no way of knowing how many H/Os or Cutlasses or A bodies that year had no radio. I would assume a lot. A radio is an option. No radio is standard. There were 5 or 6 radio options and no radio was the standard. I would think maybe 25% of total production had no radio. Hurst/Olds were higher levels, so they usually had radios. Yours may be one of the few left without a radio, but it was certainly not a 1 of 1, and it's not really a valued statistic in the car community about whether something had a radio or not.
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 08:18 AM
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Koda I have to disagree with you on this one. An AM radio was a pretty cheap option. In 1975 we were in the middle of the disco era so music was important. This car might be one of one H/O's in 75 without a radio.
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 09:38 AM
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Koda,

Thanks for your response. You are correct there were several different radio optionsat that time and radios were just that an option in the 70s era. I just thought I would share as I have ownerd H/Os for the last 40+ years and have never seen one without a radio. The original dealers son is one of my friends and he is even shocked that is was a dealer ordered car and surprised it was ordered without a radio. Anyway Thanks for the response I was merely trying to see if any other folks out on this forum has one, was not looking for exact statistics. But you are correct I am sure there were a few more this way as GM had to design and manufacture the block off panel for a car optioned without a radio, so there are probably several out there or were upgraded to an aftermarket radio later in their life.

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Old Nov 6, 2024 | 10:53 AM
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Imagine how many of those "rare" block-off plates were drilled for an aftermarket radio. Unmolested pieces for restoration may be hard to come by. I seriously doubt those are repo'ed.
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
Koda I have to disagree with you on this one. An AM radio was a pretty cheap option. In 1975 we were in the middle of the disco era so music was important. This car might be one of one H/O's in 75 without a radio.
I'd tend to agree, I've never seen one, gotta be rare. How else are you going to crank KC & the Sunshine Band in your new '75 H/O!
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 01:56 PM
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I'd tend to agree, I've never seen one, gotta be rare. How else are you going to crank KC & the Sunshine Band in your new '75 H/O!
Plus the Bee Gee's and Donna Summer.
Old Nov 6, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
It's not a one of one, and there is no way of knowing how many H/Os or Cutlasses or A bodies that year had no radio. I would assume a lot. A radio is an option. No radio is standard. There were 5 or 6 radio options and no radio was the standard. I would think maybe 25% of total production had no radio. Hurst/Olds were higher levels, so they usually had radios. Yours may be one of the few left without a radio, but it was certainly not a 1 of 1, and it's not really a valued statistic in the car community about whether something had a radio or not.
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Koda I have to disagree with you on this one. An AM radio was a pretty cheap option. In 1975 we were in the middle of the disco era so music was important. This car might be one of one H/O's in 75 without a radio.
Gonna have to go along with Glenn here. Actually, I can't recall having seen an American car built after 1970 that was "radio delete". Even in the '60s only the most bare-bones of strippers didn't come with a radio.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 09:41 AM
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Wasn't an AM radio standard equipment in the Cutlass Supreme?
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Wasn't an AM radio standard equipment in the Cutlass Supreme?
Might have been by 1975, but I'm pretty sure that prior to the colonnade era it would have been an option. Maybe @joe_padavano will post with one of his handy-dandy sales guides.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 01:08 PM
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Not a cutlass, but a similar situation. My dad bought a 43K mile 77 Pontiac Can Am from the original owner in 2023. The original owner ordered the car without a radio specifically so he could install an aftermarket radio once he got it home. The radio and aftermarket speakers he installed are still in the car today. The point; don't assume that everyone ordering a car would have automatically ordered it with a radio.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 01:34 PM
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I ordered my 1982 Jeep CJ5 without a radio so I can install an aftermarket one.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Loaded68W34
Not a cutlass, but a similar situation. My dad bought a 43K mile 77 Pontiac Can Am from the original owner in 2023. The original owner ordered the car without a radio specifically so he could install an aftermarket radio once he got it home. The radio and aftermarket speakers he installed are still in the car today. The point; don't assume that everyone ordering a car would have automatically ordered it with a radio.
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I ordered my 1982 Jeep CJ5 without a radio so I could install an aftermarket one.
Both of these situations still beg the question: was it a radio delete (scrubbing standard equipment, possibly for credit) or was it just optional equipment not ordered?
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
Both of these situations still beg the question: was it a radio delete (scrubbing standard equipment, possibly for credit) or was it just optional equipment not ordered?
Not sure if a radio was an option, it came with a delete plate.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
Not sure if a radio was an option, it came with a delete plate.
Would have come with a block-off plate in either case. Why don't you just dig out your paperwork?
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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To answer the question as far as the Can Am, a radio was not standard. An AM radio was a $79 option. The owner of my dad's Can Am ordered the car with option UN9. Listed as a "radio accomodation package" on the window sticker, it basically meant "radio ready". For $23 you got the factory installed antenna and noise filters where normally found on a radio car, but a radio block off plate.
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Originally Posted by Koda
A radio is an option. No radio is standard. There were 5 or 6 radio options and no radio was the standard..
Did I stutter? I couldn't find a 75 specs, but I did find a 74, and based my comment off that.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Did I stutter? I couldn't find a 75 specs, but I did find a 74, and based my comment off that.
Not sure if this was directed at me, but my answer in post #17 was in response to post #14, which asked a direct question about how the 77 Can Am was ordered.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bangscreech4-4-2
would have come with a block-off plate in either case. Why don't you just dig out your paperwork? :d
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Loaded68W34
To answer the question as far as the Can Am, a radio was not standard. An AM radio was a $79 option. The owner of my dad's Can Am ordered the car with option UN9. Listed as a "radio accomodation package" on the window sticker, it basically meant "radio ready". For $23 you got the factory installed antenna and noise filters where normally found on a radio car, but a radio block off plate.
That's very interesting. I had no idea it was a possibility.
Old Nov 7, 2024 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Loaded68W34
Not sure if this was directed at me, but my answer in post #17 was in response to post #14, which asked a direct question about how the 77 Can Am was ordered.
Nah, I was just being grouchy in general. I try to either know things or look them up before I say anything, and the best I could find was 74 came standard no radio. As it's the same major model, it's a good bet the 75 was standard the same way.

I need to just find pdfs of every SPECS from 62 to 87. Or paper copies.
Old Nov 8, 2024 | 03:36 AM
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My friends bought a 1980 Caprice off the lot with radio delete. Imagine the dealer ordering a Caprice for stock without a radio. I recall that the face plate was the regular radio face plate but with a blanking plate snapped in where the radio would go.


Old Nov 8, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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My friends bought a 1980 Caprice off the lot with radio delete. Imagine the dealer ordering a Caprice for stock without a radio. I recall that the face plate was the regular radio face plate but with a blanking plate snapped in where the radio would go.
That was Chevy style. I have seen a very rare woodgrain blockoff plate for radio delete on a first gen Monte Carlo. There is nothing graceful about it.
Old Nov 8, 2024 | 02:56 PM
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That's the same plate design used in the 77-85 Olds B bodies. I found one in an 88 about to be scrapped. The only application I have ever seen in 88s were ambulances and funeral coaches.
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