1984 Hurst with No title is it worth even this much?
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1984 Hurst with No title is it worth even this much?
Hi guys,
This isn't my car, but I would consider buying if it is worth it. I'm just not sure how hard it is to get a replacement title especially out of state.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/for...s-Garfield.php
Jon
This isn't my car, but I would consider buying if it is worth it. I'm just not sure how hard it is to get a replacement title especially out of state.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/for...s-Garfield.php
Jon
#2
IMO
I'd be hesitant on this one unless you can confirm it's not stolen or has any leans against it. And you plan to part it out. That implies that it would need to be bought for much less.
I'd be hesitant on this one unless you can confirm it's not stolen or has any leans against it. And you plan to part it out. That implies that it would need to be bought for much less.
#5
Here in Texas we have the Department of Public Safety/DPS. They can check the VIN, or go to where you get the title transfered DMV, to your name, (when there is a title). They should be able to check it for you, and determine if there is a lean on the car.
Last edited by steverw; March 11th, 2015 at 11:40 AM.
#6
I usually call the local police dept. The last time I did a VIN check we did it over the phone.
Issue is, a VIN check doesn't let you know there is a lean against the car. Remember all the title pawn stores that populate main street now. Or even a bank note on the car could lead to serious issues.
Some people actually lose track of their titles. When this happens they go to thier local DMV and get a duplicate title. Some people sign away thier vehicles and the title is stored in a safe at the pawn shop or bank.
Pawn shop owners and banks have plenty of money for lawyers and they will send a repo specialist to retrieve the car.
There really needs to be a good reason the seller doesn't have the title and why he can't get it fixed.
This car isn't worth a dime without paperwork and it is a potencial headache for the next owner.
I bought a really nice BMW convertible once. I had to park it in a secure garage until I got the title from the seller. The seller (a legal auto sales business) couldn't locate the title, and the DMV wouldn't issue a second temporary tag. It was a headache. And I had to use my strong personality in order to get the situation corrected.
Be careful
Issue is, a VIN check doesn't let you know there is a lean against the car. Remember all the title pawn stores that populate main street now. Or even a bank note on the car could lead to serious issues.
Some people actually lose track of their titles. When this happens they go to thier local DMV and get a duplicate title. Some people sign away thier vehicles and the title is stored in a safe at the pawn shop or bank.
Pawn shop owners and banks have plenty of money for lawyers and they will send a repo specialist to retrieve the car.
There really needs to be a good reason the seller doesn't have the title and why he can't get it fixed.
This car isn't worth a dime without paperwork and it is a potencial headache for the next owner.
I bought a really nice BMW convertible once. I had to park it in a secure garage until I got the title from the seller. The seller (a legal auto sales business) couldn't locate the title, and the DMV wouldn't issue a second temporary tag. It was a headache. And I had to use my strong personality in order to get the situation corrected.
Be careful
#7
Anytime the seller claims he doesn't have the title because it was "lost", your BS detector should be pegged. EVERY state in the nation has an extremely simple process to get a replacement title issued if the registered owner loses it. Here in VA it takes filling out a form and paying like $5 or $10. The DMV will print it out while you wait if you have proper ID, otherwise they mail it to the owner's address on record. If the seller can't get a replacement title, you aren't going to either.
#8
Anytime the seller claims he doesn't have the title because it was "lost", your BS detector should be pegged. EVERY state in the nation has an extremely simple process to get a replacement title issued if the registered owner loses it. Here in VA it takes filling out a form and paying like $5 or $10. The DMV will print it out while you wait if you have proper ID, otherwise they mail it to the owner's address on record. If the seller can't get a replacement title, you aren't going to either.
Last edited by allyolds68; March 12th, 2015 at 05:30 AM.
#9
Buyer beware on this one. My son bought a car with no title a few years ago. By the time we got it registered we had to pay almost half what he paid for the car in back fees (of course I live in the progressive laboratory called California). The dmv out here starts the clock ticking on title and registration fees the minute you go in and inquire how to accomplish it. Be carful.
#10
No title = parts car... at best, if not stolen or otherwise trouble.
the question then is, what condition are the parts in?
Looks to me... pretty rough.
307 with no buyers anywhere ever.
OD trans, maybe, unless toasted.
3.73 rear, many buyers, might even be posi, or not. At least they got a decimal point in the ratio number.
Interior looks trashed.
Shifter missing a lever? May or may not be worthy. No info in the ad.
Body might be painted over rust.
Sounds like $3k is a stretch.
CA has some real dolt-a$$ screw the populace rules. If you don't fill out the proper form asserting that you have not used your car [which is in storage] on the road, BEFORE you need tags, then they ASSume that you have been using it on the road, and charge you for that time, plus late fees. Plus, plus, plus. I can only imagine what the fees would be now for my '68, because I neglected to tell them for the last oh 24 years that I was not using their roads.
the question then is, what condition are the parts in?
Looks to me... pretty rough.
307 with no buyers anywhere ever.
OD trans, maybe, unless toasted.
3.73 rear, many buyers, might even be posi, or not. At least they got a decimal point in the ratio number.
Interior looks trashed.
Shifter missing a lever? May or may not be worthy. No info in the ad.
Body might be painted over rust.
Sounds like $3k is a stretch.
CA has some real dolt-a$$ screw the populace rules. If you don't fill out the proper form asserting that you have not used your car [which is in storage] on the road, BEFORE you need tags, then they ASSume that you have been using it on the road, and charge you for that time, plus late fees. Plus, plus, plus. I can only imagine what the fees would be now for my '68, because I neglected to tell them for the last oh 24 years that I was not using their roads.
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