1969 Motion Hurst/Oldsmobile
#1
1969 Motion Hurst/Oldsmobile
Please check out this link:
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/feature...ldsmobile-455/
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/feature...ldsmobile-455/
#3
Just read these comments. These guys are retarded
September 27, 2010 at 9:50 pm
I completely restored a 1969 Hurst/Oldsmobile 455 HO it took me 1 1/2 years it’s was better then a bran,new one when it was done at a cost of more then $13,000.00 I painted it like no other it was like you lazered the paint and strip on slick as glass I also signed it in the truck right side lip just above the bumper sorry I won’t tell you ho own it!. Or if it’s still around.
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<LI class="comment c1 c-y2010 c-m10 c-d27 c-h11" id=comment-461 style="POSITION: relative" sizset="76" sizcache="13">Jay Willett says:
October 27, 2010 at 7:43 pm
$13,000 is a pretty high sum of money for a restoration of a H/O. must have been very rough, or a clone. hope the work you did was better than your spelling
#4
I wonder if Motion did any Toronados?
I know they did one yellow 1970 Buick GSX(aftermarket wheels, 3-barrel Holley, ladder bars,etc).
At the 2010 Olds Nationals, I picked up a model a black 1968 Motion 442.
I know they did one yellow 1970 Buick GSX(aftermarket wheels, 3-barrel Holley, ladder bars,etc).
At the 2010 Olds Nationals, I picked up a model a black 1968 Motion 442.
#5
I have a magazine featuring that Motion H/O-------December 1973 Popular Hot Rodding. Now here's the BIG news---I know where the car is......... A guy I know owns it and it is still in the same condition as those articles. Last time I spoke to him (December 2010) the car wasn't for sale. Until next time..... Dave.
#6
Motion actually had a booklet available on how to tune the "W" cars. Reprints are around now. They built at least one '68 also. I have an original "MOTION" yellow sticker on my desk at home along with some other memorabilia. Back then, "Motion" was just a little garage on Long Island near Baldwin Chevrolet. The legend is bigger than the real estate.
#10
This is a drag car, not a resto. The paint was first done in the 1960s to make the car stand out. Can't speak to the rationale for the crappy shifter, however. The stock dual gate would have been a much better choice.
#11
#12
The article also mentions the following:
the "Commotion by Motion" H/O received the non-A/C tuned W-46 455 "Rocket V8." W-46s came with chrome steel valve covers and an aluminum dual-plane intake manifold (to optimize the 455's 500 ft. lbs. of torque),
I'm pretty sure W-45's were non A/C and W-46's were A/C.... also, no 'aluminum dual-plane intake manifold...
the "Commotion by Motion" H/O received the non-A/C tuned W-46 455 "Rocket V8." W-46s came with chrome steel valve covers and an aluminum dual-plane intake manifold (to optimize the 455's 500 ft. lbs. of torque),
I'm pretty sure W-45's were non A/C and W-46's were A/C.... also, no 'aluminum dual-plane intake manifold...
Please check out this link:
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/feature...ldsmobile-455/
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/feature...ldsmobile-455/
#16
Weren't all of the 69 H/O cars W-46's?
It is my understanding that the 68 cars were W-45 (no AC) and W-46 (AC), but that in 69 they called them all the same.
I have seen the 69 Commotion by Motion in person. Spring 2007 or 2008. It was in a big car barn with about 40 or so other muscle Olds. And a bunch of parts. I tripped over 2 1970 W-27 rears while I was looking around.
It is my understanding that the 68 cars were W-45 (no AC) and W-46 (AC), but that in 69 they called them all the same.
I have seen the 69 Commotion by Motion in person. Spring 2007 or 2008. It was in a big car barn with about 40 or so other muscle Olds. And a bunch of parts. I tripped over 2 1970 W-27 rears while I was looking around.
#17
Yep, I think you are right and I was off, the 68's had the differentiation and the 69's were then all W-46's
Weren't all of the 69 H/O cars W-46's?
It is my understanding that the 68 cars were W-45 (no AC) and W-46 (AC), but that in 69 they called them all the same.
I have seen the 69 Commotion by Motion in person. Spring 2007 or 2008. It was in a big car barn with about 40 or so other muscle Olds. And a bunch of parts. I tripped over 2 1970 W-27 rears while I was looking around.
It is my understanding that the 68 cars were W-45 (no AC) and W-46 (AC), but that in 69 they called them all the same.
I have seen the 69 Commotion by Motion in person. Spring 2007 or 2008. It was in a big car barn with about 40 or so other muscle Olds. And a bunch of parts. I tripped over 2 1970 W-27 rears while I was looking around.
#21
Bob Anderson from Tampa had that Commotion 69 H/O last time I saw it and it had an automatic in it. It was god awful loud and very healthy sounding.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
Last edited by 69HO43; February 16th, 2011 at 12:05 PM.
#22
At the Oldsmibile 100th anniv in Lansing, MI back in 1997 the 4 speed 1968 H/O was there, picture below. It was owned by Demmer's son at the time I believe. Not sure if it's the same car you were referring to.
Bob Anderson from Tampa had that Commotion 69 H/O last time I saw it and it had an automatic in it. It was god awful loud and very healthy sounding.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
#25
I did not get the lowdown on the wrecked car's status. I only asked if there was really only one 68 4-speed and I was told no. The guy I talked to at Demmer said that the wrecked car was a 4-speed car, and that there was a 4-speed car built for Demmer's son. I only surmised that the two were different cars, but I guess it could be possible it was the same car. For all we know there could have been several pre-production cars with 4-speeds. I have no proof to support or dispute this. I'm only going off of what I was told by the guy I talked to at Demmer. I have no reason to think the guy was pulling my leg as I was really after 69 information. As the story goes, a bumblebee got into the truck cab of the hauler and the driver freaked and the truck ended up running off the road in a ditch.
With that said, one can be fair to speculate that the wrecked H/O going to a pre-production meeting pretty much had to be either a typical Cutlass or regular production 442 that didn't have the right paint code info, etc., since it wasn't a planned, production H/O at the time as all the pre-pro 68s had to be. In other words, it was supposedly a Hurst prototype looking for sign-off for production, so it certainly COULD have had a G-G paint code if that turned out to be the one in the pics.
With that said, one can be fair to speculate that the wrecked H/O going to a pre-production meeting pretty much had to be either a typical Cutlass or regular production 442 that didn't have the right paint code info, etc., since it wasn't a planned, production H/O at the time as all the pre-pro 68s had to be. In other words, it was supposedly a Hurst prototype looking for sign-off for production, so it certainly COULD have had a G-G paint code if that turned out to be the one in the pics.
#26
I like the engine limiter when I see crap like that I wonder if they knew what they were doing. The 69 H/O was a great looking car, the motion
paint scheme does nothing for the car and is even bad for 60's era paint. The rear wheel wells are just plain bad.
paint scheme does nothing for the car and is even bad for 60's era paint. The rear wheel wells are just plain bad.
#27
"In 1968, color options were nonexistent, regulating all H/Os to a striking Peruvian Silver and Black paint scheme, while body styles were available in either the “Club Coupe” (post) or “Sport Coupe” (hardtop) models. "
Bullshed. Club and Sport are terms for the post car. HOLIDAY is the no-B-post body.
Bullshed. Club and Sport are terms for the post car. HOLIDAY is the no-B-post body.
#28
Bob Anderson from Tampa had that Commotion 69 H/O last time I saw it and it had an automatic in it. It was god awful loud and very healthy sounding.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
Third vote on W46 as the H/O option for 69, any flavor.
There was actually a PRE-68 Hurst/Olds with a 4-speed in it. However, as it was slated to be hauled over to the Olds brass for a pre-production meeting, the truck hauling it wrecked and the car got crunched in the ditch. This is according to folks that were there at Demmer at the time.
Bob still has the one and only 69 Commotion. Its right up the street from me. P.S. For those that care there is a brand new 1/18 scale of this car being made and it should be out in about a week.
#29
I got a call yesterday from a guy who procured a barn find '69 H/O complete engine
Wanted to know what them parts were worth....
Maybe the original one is alive and seeking its engine!
I asked for intake casting date...
more as it develops
Wanted to know what them parts were worth....
Maybe the original one is alive and seeking its engine!
I asked for intake casting date...
more as it develops
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