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Old May 17, 2013 | 08:18 PM
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Fisher Cowl Tag Decoding

I can get a camera in there to take a pic and its been painted so many times it's hard to read in the first place. I believe I have all the correct digits. If someone could please decipher this for me? I've always wondered.

ST 72 33687 205473 BDY
TR D40 A51 75B PNT
04C 166277 630069
Old May 17, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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ST= year and body style, 72= 1972, 33687=Cutlass 2 door Hardtop Coupe, 205473=production sequence (not related to the VIN), TR=trim (should be 940 not D40) black vinyl interior, A51=seat type/buckets, 75=lower body color: Matador red, B=upper body color (roof) black. Two sources that I have indicate that two letters, (BB for example) are required for the top color, one of them indicates that a single letter, as you have listed indicates the paint stripe color. O4C=build date 4th month (April) C=3rd week. final numbers were used for in plant, unknown to the rest of us.
Old May 18, 2013 | 05:12 AM
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Thanks for such a fast response!
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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
ST= year and body style, 72= 1972, 33687=Cutlass 2 door Hardtop Coupe, 205473=production sequence (not related to the VIN), TR=trim (should be 940 not D40) black vinyl interior, A51=seat type/buckets, 75=lower body color: Matador red, B=upper body color (roof) black. Two sources that I have indicate that two letters, (BB for example) are required for the top color, one of them indicates that a single letter, as you have listed indicates the paint stripe color. O4C=build date 4th month (April) C=3rd week. final numbers were used for in plant, unknown to the rest of us.
Could you decipher mine as well (if you don't mind)? It's for a 68' cutlass. I would really appreciate it!
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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
ST= year and body style, 72= 1972, 33687=Cutlass 2 door Hardtop Coupe, 205473=production sequence (not related to the VIN), TR=trim (should be 940 not D40) black vinyl interior, A51=seat type/buckets, 75=lower body color: Matador red, B=upper body color (roof) black. Two sources that I have indicate that two letters, (BB for example) are required for the top color, one of them indicates that a single letter, as you have listed indicates the paint stripe color. O4C=build date 4th month (April) C=3rd week. final numbers were used for in plant, unknown to the rest of us.
I've owned about a dozen '72s - none have ever had two letters for the top color on the cowl tag. (It would have a two digit number in that position if it is a painted top, e.g. 26 26). In this case, B is a black vinyl top. Stripe color is not indicated on the cowl tag for '70-'72 cars.

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Old May 23, 2013 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jjokrm
Could you decipher mine as well (if you don't mind)? It's for a 68' cutlass. I would really appreciate it!
04C=april 3rd start of assy
68=1968
3=olds
36=v8 cutlass
67=drop top
LAN=Lansing Michigan
352332=body sequence
947=parchment vinyl bucket seating
R=Scarlet
1=white top

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Old May 23, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1970cs
04C=april 3rd start of assy
68=1968
3=olds
36=v8 cutlass
67=drop top
LAN=Lansing Michigan
352332=body sequence
947=parchment vinyl bucket seating
R=Scarlet
1=white top

Pat
Awesome. Thanks!!
Old May 23, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 1970cs
04C=april 3rd start of assy
No. Third week of April, not April 3rd.

04 = April
C = 3rd week.
Old May 23, 2013 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
final numbers were used for in plant, unknown to the rest of us.
Hey, not unknown to *all* of the rest of us. I think he forgot to add some letters before the 205473 which would identify the plant. But it otherwise looks like it is a Fremont car, in which case the 166277 630069 numbers are Manifest Sequence numbers used in Fremont. These numbers are also found on the Build Sheets there. But they still don't really tell you anything meaningful.
Old May 23, 2013 | 10:03 AM
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I've owned about a dozen '72s - none have ever had two letters for the top color
on the cowl tag. (It would have a two digit number in that position if it is a
painted top, e.g. 26 26). In this case, B is a black vinyl top. Stripe color is
not indicated on the cowl tag for '70-'72 cars.
I agree, as I have not seen double letters on a cowl tag, and my '69 is 55 55, for the paint top and bottom, I stopped while typing this to go back and look at my sources, to confirm what was there....and I can't find it! So, I have to apologize if the info given on paint stripe color possibly being listed on the cowl tag is wrong. Don't know what I was smoking, or maybe I should start.
Old May 23, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
No. Third week of April, not April 3rd.

04 = April
C = 3rd week.
Thanks for the correction, stopped what I was doing, did not type in 3rd week.

Pat
Old May 23, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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According to my VIN it did come from CA with a 350 in it. (I don't have the VIN on me right now) I do know that with a 350/350 . So my car came with a vinyl top ? I will try and get a pic with my phone its thinner then my camera. By the time I bought it, it has a 455/400
Old May 23, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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So my car came with a vinyl top ?
yes, black vinyl.
Old May 24, 2013 | 07:08 AM
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Wow that's amazing I would of never thought that it did. I knew the paint wasn't original, but now I can understand why.
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 05:47 PM
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Cowl tag with TR 934 50 H PNT
934 is seat type and color but what type and color
50 H I think is Bamboo color hardtop?
Thanks.
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by easyd
Cowl tag with TR 934 50 H PNT
934 is seat type and color but what type and color
50 H I think is Bamboo color hardtop?
Thanks.
is it a 1970?

934 = gold buckets
50 = "bamboo"
H = gold vinyl top
Old Jun 13, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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Wow that's amazing I would of never thought that it did. I knew the paint wasn't original, but now I can understand why.
For what it's worth, for the 1970 model year, more than half (50.9%) of the 442 coupes had a vinyl roof. When you add in convertibles, this means only about 41% of 442s had a painted roof.

I haven't looked at the numbers for 1972, but I bet they aren't too different. I haven't looked at how the numbers might have differed for Cutlasses vs. 442s either.
Old Jun 14, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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Now you guys have me almost wanting to put a top back on it! Just out of curiosity at this point, does anyone make the trim pieces for the quarters? I'd think that's all you would need besides the vinyl right?
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