General Questions Place to post your questions that don't fit into one of the specific forums below.

Safety in Slow Idle Tuning

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:44 PM
  #1  
pcard's Avatar
Thread Starter
70 Cutlass SX
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,042
From: Bermuda
Safety in Slow Idle Tuning

Tuning the carb idle with an auto transmission in Drive has always bothered me, even with the brake on and wheels blocked.

Could people share their favourite ways to do this?

Thanks, Peter
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 06:52 PM
  #2  
MDchanic's Avatar
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 21,183
From: The Hudson Valley
1. Apply emergency brake.

2. Start engine.

3. Put in Drive.

4. Get out of car, stand in front, adjust idle.

5. Forget it's in Drive, blip throttle, get a quick eye-opener.

6. repeat.

- Eric
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 07:13 PM
  #3  
pcard's Avatar
Thread Starter
70 Cutlass SX
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,042
From: Bermuda
Eric:
I like step 6 the best because it means you survived step 5

Peter
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 07:19 PM
  #4  
coppercutlass's Avatar
Chevy budget Olds powered
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 8,638
From: Elgin, Illinois
I just leave it in park adjust go in put it in drive and back n forth.
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 07:47 PM
  #5  
Lady72nRob71's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,798
From: Plano, TX
Just put bricks in front of all 4 wheels also for more comfort than just the parking brake.
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 07:48 PM
  #6  
oldcutlass's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 42,512
From: Poteau, Ok
I do it with Eric's method but I lean over the drivers fender.
Old Apr 16, 2013 | 08:30 PM
  #7  
pcard's Avatar
Thread Starter
70 Cutlass SX
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,042
From: Bermuda
Leaning over the fender - where is the fun in that?

The place I keep the car has some wheel chocks and I definitely use those, even when I raise the front or rear to do some cleaning.
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 03:49 AM
  #8  
MDchanic's Avatar
Connoisseur d'Junque
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 21,183
From: The Hudson Valley
Originally Posted by pcard
I like step 6 the best because it means you survived step 5
Yeah, I actually, without exaggeration, don't think there's been a single time when I haven't done that at least once, and made the car (and me) jump.
Just make sure there's nothing within a few feet in front or back.

- Eric
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:15 AM
  #9  
joe_padavano's Avatar
Old(s) Fart
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 50,815
From: Northern VA
Originally Posted by MDchanic
1. Apply emergency brake.

2. Start engine.

3. Put in Drive.

4. Get out of car, stand in front, adjust idle.
I use this method, except I put the car in REVERSE. That way, when I'm standing in front of it, it doesn't come towards me. If you're really nervous about the holding ability of your e-brake, just have a helper sit in the car with foot on the brakes.
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:17 AM
  #10  
rustyroger's Avatar
'87 Delta 88 Royale
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,514
From: Margate, England
If you have a rwd apply the parking brake and jack up the rear then put the axle on stands. You'll find out if the parking brake is in good shape as well.

Roger.
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 07:24 AM
  #11  
brown7373's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,124
From: Fort Pierce, FL
It will be fine if the parking brake is working correctly and the wheels are blocked. Now if you forget and want to test the upper rpm limits, all bets are off. Still, a good idea to stand at the side or put in reverse. That said, the parking brake is much less effective in reverse. Also, the proper way to apply the parking brake is to step on the regular brake, hold it, then apply the parking brake. That sets it much more firmly.
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:04 AM
  #12  
pcard's Avatar
Thread Starter
70 Cutlass SX
 
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,042
From: Bermuda
Joe - now using Reverse is such a good idea I wonder why the CSM does not specify it.

B73 - I did not know that about parking brakes - is that something your Dad taught you?

Rusty - I would be worried about the vibration and stability, maybe it that would not be an issue.

Thanks everyone, Peter.
Old Apr 17, 2013 | 08:37 AM
  #13  
brown7373's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,124
From: Fort Pierce, FL
I'm not sure when I learned that, but the regular foot brake applies the shoes firmly, and then the parking brake just hold the shoes in that position. Operating the parking brake by cable has a lot more resistance and doesn't apply them nearly as much.
Old Apr 18, 2013 | 07:41 AM
  #14  
rustyroger's Avatar
'87 Delta 88 Royale
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,514
From: Margate, England
To pass the UK annual roadworthiness test the parking brake must give at least 25% efficiency without aid from the service brake.
If the brakes are properly set up that isn't a problem on any American car I've owned.

Putting the transmission in reverse is a good idea, as is having a helper with his foot ready to stamp on the brake.
But let's make the dangerous assumption the tuner knows what he (or she) is doing, in that case revving the engine enough to overpower the parking brake shouldn't occur. However this is the real world, so a back up safety measure is always a good idea, you can fix a damaged car for a lot less than a damaged Human.

Roger.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
oldsfan_74
General Questions
0
Apr 12, 2013 07:46 AM
ChefDeadpool
Small Blocks
4
Sep 10, 2011 07:17 PM
al714
Small Blocks
1
Nov 12, 2010 02:55 PM
wolfman98
Site Help
2
Nov 19, 2009 05:06 PM
Olds64
Big Blocks
5
Aug 25, 2009 09:22 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:49 PM.