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Old January 10th, 2023 | 12:59 PM
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What is the vin number


Can someone put the vin together
Old January 10th, 2023 | 01:08 PM
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Can someone decode this


Can someone tell me all the speciations
Old January 10th, 2023 | 03:13 PM
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Here's your very own thread instead of resurrecting one that's been dead for seven years. I also merged your identical post on a thread that has been dead for nearly 15 years. There's no need to post the same question in multiple sub-forums. Also, that's not the VIN, it's the cowl tag. It has no VIN information. The VIN is on the door post on the driver's side.



7E = built fifth week (E) of July (7), 1964. Note that production ran August to July, so this would be very late in the 1964 model year.
42 = not proven but thought to be related to Fisher Body job number
STYLE 64 = 1964 model year
3169 = F85 Deluxe (31) four door sedan (69)
BF = Fremont, CA assembly plant
411 = Fisher Body sequence number (apparently not a lot of four doors built at Fremont that year)
TRIM 926 = Aqua cloth interior
PAINT PPA = Pacific Mist Poly (P) lower and upper body colors with black (A) wheels
ACC B70 = Safety Padded instrument panel (standard equipment on F85 Deluxe models)
B90 = bright door frame moldings (also standard on F85 Deluxe models)
8629 = manifest sequence number from the build sheet
Old January 11th, 2023 | 07:00 AM
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Thank you

I just got the car from my dad for my 15th birthday and I am trying to learn more about it because I don't know much about cars





anyways thank you. I'll probably be back with more questions
Old January 11th, 2023 | 07:08 AM
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This is not the original engine - the blocked off EGR valve on the intake is 1973-newer, as is the Qjet carb. At least they reused the original accessory brackets when they dropped that motor in. Don't know if it still has the original Jetaway two speed or a TH350 that came with the motor. Also looks like it has been converted to a dual circuit master cylinder, which is nice from a safety standpoint. Does the engine still have the 1964-only water pump with the inlet on the driver's side? If so, there would be some question about the balancer that was used and the location of the timing marks. If it has the 1965-later water pump with the passenger side inlet then there's likely no issue. Your biggest problem will be determining exactly what parts this car has for use when ordering replacement parts.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 07:36 AM
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It does appear to have an HEI distributor and aftermarket radiator.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
It does appear to have an HEI distributor and aftermarket radiator.
I'm sure the HEI came with the 1970s motor. The radiator was probably needed to accommodate the water pump inlet on the "wrong" side for a 1964.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:02 PM
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Here are some pics of the water pump



Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:04 PM
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So this is the 1964 water pump but the radiator is set up for the 1965-later pump with the inlet on the other side, thus the need for this plumbing nightmare. I suggest replacing that with a 1965 pump and simplifying the hose routing.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:08 PM
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OK thanks

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Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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Take a photo of the block casting number above the water pump and the cylinder head code number next to the #1 spark plug.




Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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What motor is this then if it's not the original




Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:13 PM
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See my Post #11 above
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:18 PM
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Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:19 PM
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That's a 455 block.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:21 PM
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See if you can find the VIN derivative stamp on the driver's side of the block. This will tell you the model year of the engine.



Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:39 PM
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It's either rusted out or somewhere else


Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle batchelor
Unfortunately, that's where it would be. Again, what's the head casting letter right above that?
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:42 PM
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Where is that

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Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Kyle batchelor
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Go re-read post #11
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:48 PM
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Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Figured. That's consistent with the intake and carb. This is a 1973-76 smog motor 455. 8.5:1 compression. If the HEI is original that pegs it as a 1975-76 motor, but it's common to retrofit HEI onto older stuff. Still not a bad start for this car. Congrats. I would definitely consider getting a 1965 water pump (5.1" length) and matching lower radiator hose to clean up that mess.
Old January 11th, 2023 | 12:54 PM
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Thank you again I really appreciate your help

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Old January 11th, 2023 | 05:20 PM
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Kyle. Does the car run, drive and stop? If not we can help you.

Looks like you're in PA. Interesting that a Fremont built car has made it clear across the country.

Does your high school offer an automotive tech course? There are also three Oldsmobile Club of America chapters in PA. One near Pittsburgh, one in south central based in York, and one in Philly area covering eastern PA and Delaware. Connect with them and you'll find advice and help. AACA is headquartered in PA and you may know about the big Carlisle and Hershey swap meets.

We were all 15 and ignorant once.

How are you set for tools? A SAE-sizes starter set from Harbor Freight or Northern Tool will get you going. Or hit swap meets, estate sales and pawnshops. These are for most part simple cars and easy to work on, even with the engine swap.

A 455, even a smog 455, under a 15-year-old's foot in a 3100 lb car? Hully jayzus😳 I know what the smogged fury 455 in my 4900 lb 76 Ninety Eight is capable of doing to its tires...😏

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Old January 11th, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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I would move the car away from the tree asap. Those pine needles will find there way into every crevice. Once wet they will retain moisture and cause a lot of rust issues. Cool car and good luck. When working on the car be patient and keep it simple.

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Old January 12th, 2023 | 05:08 AM
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I'm not sure

My dad said it will run but he needs to find the key and get a battery but I'm not sure if it will drive or if the brakes are good.


It was sitting for about 18 years in my great grandparents garage then they gave it to my dad he worked on it for about a year (that's when the 455 was swapped in to it) now it has been sitting outside for about 6 year under the cover.

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Old January 12th, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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Is there any chance somebody knows what wheels came stock with my car. car details on post #3
Old January 12th, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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Is there any chance somebody knows what wheels came stock with my car. car details on post #3
Your car came with plain 14" steel wheels. The black paint on the cowl tag suggests that the car had full wheel covers and not dog dish caps. There were several options for full hubcaps. That info is not on the cowl tag.
Old January 12th, 2023 | 11:42 AM
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Thanks

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