See if this dosn't tighten your lugnuts
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No but I saw it....Tedd
Yep on the second go a round about 52 seconds into it....But I don't read French and for some reason I my computer would not translate....Tedd
Yep on the second go a round about 52 seconds into it....But I don't read French and for some reason I my computer would not translate....Tedd
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Peugeot 208's are just another everyday car over here, like most other Peugeots's they are noted for their superb diesel engines and so-so build quality.
Of course the V6 GTI is special, like a 442 or big block Chevelle back in the day perhaps.
My wife has a 307 turbo diesel wagon that has seen 186k miles as a cab and still runs like new. It returns 40 mpg (imperial, that's 32 mpg for you guys), and is pleasant to drive and has been very reliable.
No question though, my Oldsmobile and Buick beat it hands down for smiles per mile!.
Roger.
Of course the V6 GTI is special, like a 442 or big block Chevelle back in the day perhaps.
My wife has a 307 turbo diesel wagon that has seen 186k miles as a cab and still runs like new. It returns 40 mpg (imperial, that's 32 mpg for you guys), and is pleasant to drive and has been very reliable.
No question though, my Oldsmobile and Buick beat it hands down for smiles per mile!.
Roger.
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I did not know they made a wagon.....my Dad in the late 70's switched his brand loyalty from Dodge to Peugeot. Both were 504's , one gas the other diesel. The fun factor for a young male driver was 0, but they were reliable. I drove them both to the wreckers....
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Think about it for a sec what set apart VW from the other imports:
(I'm pulling these out of my **** so I'm not placing bets on accuracy)
- Quality vehicle (i.e. reliable)
- Expansive dealer network
- Dealer support
- Parts support
- Factory support
Peugeot didn't have all these. Overall their cars were not as difficult to live with as, let's say, Fiat (which may have only had a decent dealer network going for it) or Borgward (which certainly didn't have that going for it).
My point? The American experience doesn't necessarily accurately characterize a brand. All you have to do is go to Europe and see Mercedes taxis and then realize that the Mercs they send to the States have a much different marketing push - a prestigious quality vehicle.
(I'm pulling these out of my **** so I'm not placing bets on accuracy)
- Quality vehicle (i.e. reliable)
- Expansive dealer network
- Dealer support
- Parts support
- Factory support
Peugeot didn't have all these. Overall their cars were not as difficult to live with as, let's say, Fiat (which may have only had a decent dealer network going for it) or Borgward (which certainly didn't have that going for it).
My point? The American experience doesn't necessarily accurately characterize a brand. All you have to do is go to Europe and see Mercedes taxis and then realize that the Mercs they send to the States have a much different marketing push - a prestigious quality vehicle.
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Mercedes is perceived as a top quality brand, so why would they dilute that image with Taxi Pack models with a smaller margin.
Shipping costs will be the same too.
Roger.
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I have often laughed at the American perception of M-B, when in Europe they're taxicabs and cop cars. Same with 3 series BMW- my BMW technician cousin will quickly tell you if you own a 3-series, you've bought yourself a German Chevette. He makes a good living off repairing them though.
Peugeot never had outstanding dealer support in US and then between US emissions and collision standards, it was cheaper to bail on the American market. Doesn't mean they aren't good cars... Mama's baby brother was the French car mechanic here for years, by virtue of having learned how to work on them when stationed in Portugal in the 50s. He often said the key to successfully repairing a French car was to learn to swear at it in French. He owned a string of Peugeots and Renaults and they were reliable if underpowered cars. But I've also learned we don't always get the hotrod versions of European or Japanese cars here in the States.
Peugeot never had outstanding dealer support in US and then between US emissions and collision standards, it was cheaper to bail on the American market. Doesn't mean they aren't good cars... Mama's baby brother was the French car mechanic here for years, by virtue of having learned how to work on them when stationed in Portugal in the 50s. He often said the key to successfully repairing a French car was to learn to swear at it in French. He owned a string of Peugeots and Renaults and they were reliable if underpowered cars. But I've also learned we don't always get the hotrod versions of European or Japanese cars here in the States.
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