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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 06:22 PM
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my son drove the wifes impala to work saturday afternoon,he works in lansing downtown. went inside punched in, remembered he left keys in cup holder,went out and it was gone. cops were called,report filed,and i had to pick him up,(im 35 mis from his work). on the way in i got thinking...we have onstar on the car, got home after driving around the area clicking the extra key fob hoping to find the car. no luck. went home called onstar wow 30 mins later cops call,we have your car. cool,its 430 am, we went and picked it up. now these thieves cant be too smart. first the car was less than 2 blocks away from where it was stolen. 2 they left their tiny girl gloves in it,3 they left a backpack,with debit card and phone,license plate was off,but stuck in the back window. 4 they took his 4 dollors of bottles out of the back seat,and cashed them in,left the receipt in the console,it has time and date plus cameras all over the store and parking lot.they also left 2 sandwhich bags of coins in the console,(their coins) left his coins and winng lottery tickets in the console. bottles still in trunk. didnt leave the keys tho,i think they were going to use the car the next day.lol glad we got it back,thanks on star and lansing pd. thieves dont think too far ahead
Old Jan 30, 2022 | 07:26 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 07:58 PM
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Glad you got the car back, but low-lifes have the keys...
Old Jan 30, 2022 | 08:49 PM
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Back in my days like 1971 someone stole my tires and rims and weeks later I saw my tires and rims so I waited till he parked at night then used lighter fluid and set the tires on fire I didn't think the whole car would catch on fire so one wasted 65 Impala
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:20 AM
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Well, duh! He left the keys in it downtown. What did you expect?
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 03:26 AM
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The Government needs to pass a bill to educate criminals so they won’t get caught.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 04:04 AM
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Glad it all worked out, sounds like they didn't know the gig was up and planned to go back and use car more. I was raised in Lansing and it used to be a good mid sized city, but has gotten worse. I worked for Consumers as a gas service guy from 1998 to 2013 and drove around the city all day and night and I still didn't feel like it was so bad. But it has gotten worse- too bad. Laingsburg is my kinda place!!
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 07:27 AM
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Hope no "sensitive" keys are on the stolen key ring, don't need them breaking into your home, workplace, etc.!
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 08:35 AM
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The Government needs to pass a bill to educate criminals so they won’t get caught.
Don’t give them any ideas.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 08:48 AM
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Id get the locks changed for everything that was on that key ring
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 11:41 AM
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Well, duh! He left the keys in it downtown. What did you expect?
Exactly.

My Dad was a career LEO with our town's police dept. He said the #1 way to prevent auto theft was to not leave the keys in the car. #2 was to lock the doors. You'd think those two were obvious no-brainers, but apparently a lot of people actually leave the keys in unlocked vehicles.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Nickels
Back in my days like 1971 someone stole my tires and rims and weeks later I saw my tires and rims so I waited till he parked at night then used lighter fluid and set the tires on fire I didn't think the whole car would catch on fire so one wasted 65 Impala
Might not want to post that
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 12:07 PM
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Oh man, I've had a few run in with thieves. Twice I had someone try to steal one of my vehicles.

1st was my first classic- a beat to **** 66 4 door dodge dart. Came out from the movies one day and found him in the driver seat trying to hot wire it (wouldn't start cause it was junk). Idk why he targeted it, it was so bad that I left it unlocked because a replacement window would cost more than the car.

2nd time was at my apartment. A friend of mine who lived there had a crotch rocket and I had a big Harley. We would park in the same spot. Well one morning I came out to my bike on the ground and his gone. Thieves came and loaded his bike in the back of a truck, and they tried to get mine but the heavy bitch fell on top of him and they took off. Luckily no damage to my bike apart from a scratch (it was 20 years old and pieced together from several others), but my friends wasn't so lucky. They found it 2 months later, spray painted, and the wiring/fairing was fucked, never to run again. Guy they caught it with was only charged with possession of stolen property and not auto theft.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 12:44 PM
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The Government needs to pass a bill to educate criminals so they won’t get caught.
That's funny!
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 01:50 PM
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it was so bad that I left it unlocked because a replacement window would cost more than the car.
Now that's funny, and also something I think many of us can directly relate to.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fleming442
Well, duh! He left the keys in it downtown. What did you expect?
well they were in the cup holder,he set them there, grabbed his work bag put his things forwork in it and shut the door,just forgot 1 time. besides,isnt everyone honest? lol
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:35 PM
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
Glad it all worked out, sounds like they didn't know the gig was up and planned to go back and use car more. I was raised in Lansing and it used to be a good mid sized city, but has gotten worse. I worked for Consumers as a gas service guy from 1998 to 2013 and drove around the city all day and night and I still didn't feel like it was so bad. But it has gotten worse- too bad. Laingsburg is my kinda place!!
actually the place where it was parked and found is some brand new high dollar apartments with a small meijers store at the bottom,across the street from the lugnuts ball park. i think they were going to use it again. they got the house and garage keys,so theyll get changed.
Old Jan 31, 2022 | 02:55 PM
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Well, duh! He left the keys in it downtown. What did you expect?
Unfortunately very true. The good old days of being around mostly decent folk are long long gone. We have to be on our toes more than ever these days. Crime is spiraling out of control in the USA. And seemingly being enabled by certain law makers.

Originally Posted by Bfg
The Government needs to pass a bill to educate criminals so they won’t get caught.
Just a matter of time with the leftist agenda that's taking hold and spreading throughout the country.


Before anybody gets bent out of shape politically. I think a balance of both sides is necessary for an ideal life. But leaning too far in either direction has consequences. And we are dealing with that now.

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Oldolds88, glad it worked out ...
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 02:39 AM
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The statistics for the crime of larceny over the last 10 years are not consistent with your personal political views.

• U.S.: reported cases of property crime 2020 | Statista



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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 05:11 AM
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Tri-Carb:
The problem with your graph is it stops at 2020; before the BLM and the Defund the Police nonsense took hold of our country. In California and New York, the criminal "smash & grab" thefts are so bad the retailers are closing their stores in these locations with no plans to reopen. Where I live, in Houston, TX, nobody goes to jail, thieves and killers are released on $1 or $0 PR bonds and they go out and commit more crimes each time with greater malice due to the lack of consequences. You should look for more complete data to support your argument that crime is improving in the US!
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 07:12 AM
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There is always a time lag between the collection and publication of this type of data. When more current data is published by the FBI later this year, I will come back to this thread.

In the meantime, your misperception regarding the trajectory of the historical trend in crime data is shared by many.

I attribute a lot of this misperception to politics. Your response supports my belief. But we will see. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...rimeintheus_3/

Old Feb 1, 2022 | 07:17 AM
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24/7 access to media and actual information has changed a bunch of perceptions.
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fleming442
24/7 access to media and actual information has changed a bunch of perceptions.
There can be no honest debate against your statement.
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:01 AM
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Six and seven outline it plainly. "You shall do no murder" and "You shall not steal".

Lot of states have upped the value threshold on property crimes to account for inflation. Bullshit. You take what I worked to have, you're a lowlife thief whether what you took is worth $1000 or $10. At least there's legislation in VA this year to roll back the grand larceny threshold from $1000 to $500.

A lot of property crimes go unreported because people have realized that a lot of municipal governments put low or no emphasis on solving them or recovering property. Easier to offer a police report for insurance. Then they don't get why insurance rates in their city have skyrocketed. Yeah, that happened to me three times. The fourth time the house was broken into I didn't waste my time calling the cops. The then-police chief had pretty much surrendered the city to the gangs by then and the city management wouldn't address the problem because the police chief was the city manager's brother-in-law. Thankfully they're both gone, but it will take this city decades to recover from what those two did to it.

Local governments also have a vested interest in underreporting crime so their locality doesn't get tagged as unsafe and discourage people from living there or, even more horrific, from moving there.

I don't believe in coddling criminals. Any young child should know you do not take what is not yours, and if you do there will be consequences.

Maybe the Middle Eastern world has it right. Thieves there get fingers chopped off.

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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:34 AM
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I do like punishments that put people in their own prison, like fingers and hands for theft, ***** for rape, and so on. I also like humiliation, like the stocks in front of the courthouse. We give prisoners way too much respect. Execution needs to be public, more brutal, and much faster as well. As Lord Halifax said, "Men are not hanged for stealing horses, but so that horses might not be stolen." Few people understand the concept of deterrence.

Juveniles, I think should be given a pass on the hand chopping. I think flogging, or shooting in the rear with rock salt shot shell is a good alternative.
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 08:44 AM
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You guys are brutal, AMEN
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:02 AM
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When you limit the data to just motor vehicle thefts, you likewise get a downward trend overall. The last year's available data trended up:

• U.S.: reported motor vehicle theft rate 2020 | Statista

Regarding the coddling of criminals or prisoners, in general. Have you ever been in a maximum-security prison and, in particular, a death chamber? I have. I did not see any coddling. What I saw, mostly, I cannot post because it would be too shocking and the Board, quite correctly, could not handle it. How about just some light stuff like prisoners hunting and maiming others that they had never met and never had any interaction with, just for sport. When I say for sport, they kept score of the results of the carvings on their cell walls.

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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:34 AM
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Statistics ruin a lot of great "stories" and talking points.
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
When you limit the data to just motor vehicle thefts, you likewise get a downward trend overall. The last year's available data trended up:

• U.S.: reported motor vehicle theft rate 2020 | Statista

Regarding the coddling of criminals or prisoners, in general. Have you ever been in a maximum-security prison and, in particular, a death chamber? I have. I did not see any coddling. What I saw, mostly, I cannot post because it would be too shocking and the Board, quite correctly, could not handle it. How about just some light stuff like prisoners hunting and maiming others that they had never met and never had any interaction with, just for sport. When I say for sport, they kept score of the results of the carvings on their cell walls.
You do hard time?
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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You guys want to talk politics, go to Quora. This is a Oldsmobile enthusiast site
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
...stuff like prisoners hunting and maiming others that they had never met and never had any interaction with, just for sport. When I say for sport, they kept score of the results of the carvings on their cell walls.
Would you not agree the possibility of facing stuff like this might be a deterrent?

I need to recuse myself. Having been a victim of substantial theft, and having two relatives who were murdered while being robbed in their own home, I cannot view this thru the lens that criminals shouldn't face consequences for their actions.
Old Feb 1, 2022 | 11:54 AM
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 03:22 PM
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In other thievery news, https://www.foxnews.com/auto/cops-fi...d-hidden-field

Hood, grille, fenders, doors? All easily replaced. Gotta watch those car movers!
Old Feb 2, 2022 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by F-85 4-4-2
In other thievery news, https://www.foxnews.com/auto/cops-fi...d-hidden-field

Hood, grille, fenders, doors? All easily replaced. Gotta watch those car movers!
Looks like a fun start to a Trans Am car!
Old Feb 2, 2022 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by F-85 4-4-2
In other thievery news, https://www.foxnews.com/auto/cops-fi...d-hidden-field

Hood, grille, fenders, doors? All easily replaced. Gotta watch those car movers!
I would be more than happy to get my car back with the drivetrain still intact and just those items missing.
Old Feb 2, 2022 | 04:23 PM
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Hopefully they don't get much rainfall in that area and the motor did not get any water in it.
Old Feb 2, 2022 | 04:26 PM
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The article said the vehicle was under several tarps, so hopefully no water damage.
Old Feb 2, 2022 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Nickels
Back in my days like 1971 someone stole my tires and rims and weeks later I saw my tires and rims so I waited till he parked at night then used lighter fluid and set the tires on fire I didn't think the whole car would catch on fire so one wasted 65 Impala
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Ah what the hell. That was 1971. Instant justice.
This thread is getting closer and closer to getting locked.
I read recently read that Denver metro area is up 97 percent over the national average for violent crimes. This world is just something else these days. As kids it would be a bloody nose. Now it's an automatic weapon just like that.
Old Feb 4, 2022 | 04:54 AM
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I had an occasion back in 1988 when I lived in Haledon, NJ and at that time you could park overnight in the streets. I used to park my blue 1979 Calais on the streets overnight and never thought anything of it. This was when that car was my daily driver. That is, until one morning I walked up to the car to find someone had tried to steal it. They badly damaged the steering column collar in a failed attempt to gouge out the ignition switch. They somehow disabled the entire mechanism in their effort and took off to find another car to steal, I guess.

I am almost certain I forgot to lock the car that night. To this day I always look back at a car I'm driving to be 100% sure I locked it, anywhere, any time.



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