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I saw the add for this car just this morning and kinda knew this thread would happen. There's just so much stuff to cover I'll leave that up to the others. It's just when you first read the copy it sounds like it could be a nice car. But then you look at the pictures, it looks like someone put it together from what ever they had laying around. ~BOB
The disappointing thing is that someone obviously put a lot of work into that car, and the workmanship APPEARS to be of reasonable quality. There's just so much stuff that would have been easy to do correctly at the time that 1) it naturally begs the reality question, and 2) it hurts the value significantly.
I guess I never knew you could verify a w-30 by the trunk springs???
The original trunk springs, trunk spoiler, rear sway bar, and lower boxed control arms are in place and conform to the unique W-30 (only) specifications.
Agreed. So many comments. All that work and they use the wrong year front end? Yeah sounds like a quality shop to me. Not.
Is it just me? The fenders look like a different color.
Agreed. So many comments. All that work and they use the wrong year front end? Yeah sounds like a quality shop to me. Not.
Is it just me? The fenders look like a different color.
I think that's just how the light is hitting it.
This is the sort of thing I'm talking about. Someone went through a lot of trouble to paint the stripes on the jambs like this, which is fine for a custom. Here it just hurts credibility. This photo also shows why aftermarket 3 point belts suck in a two door.
I'm just not envisioning how this works with a starter that bolts to the engine block:
Well, considering the non-original valve covers, incorrect A/C hoses, washer tank on the wrong side, missing breathers, one-wire alternator, and MSD coil on the firewall, this whole statement pretty much pegs the meter...
The engine bay is painted and arranged as original except for the starter motor bracket which was modified to hold the starter away from engine heat.
I'll cut them slack on the painted t-stat housing and lift loop, as a lot of people get that wrong.
Not just the fenders but bumper, bumper brackets and core support along with hood all not 1970. Its almost two different cars...... but Id still like to have it.
There's usually only one reason a car has an entire front clip from a different year......, well 2. 1) its been smacked in the front pretty good, and 2) the repair shop screwed up and used the wrong parts.
OR...........its a '71 that was hit in the rear bumper, and IT was replaced w/ a '70?
Last edited by JohnnyBs68S; Mar 2, 2021 at 02:57 PM.
I think it is such a joke multiple sites claim how nice it is. How can people throw so much praise at a car with so much wrong. The wrong year front clip etc is such a telling sign. ZERO reason for using such obviously wrong parts etc.
Did I miss pictures of the vin or cowl tag?
Last edited by no1oldsfan; Mar 2, 2021 at 03:55 PM.
The term " professional restoration shop " is a very ambiguous term .
Sure , there are some shops that turn out some outstanding restorations .
There are others where the word " professional " only means that the practitioner attempts to make a living at it .
I've seen much better " amateur " restorations .
Stripes and emblem placement are things I look at as detail items that should not be hosed up. Similar to the fender stripes on the '68 442, those not in the know usually screw them all up.
Nearly all 70-72 442 restos I've ever seen where the original fenders/trunk lids were replaced, end up with gapped up numbers and often-times misaligned. There's a pic in the lineup that shows the driver side front "4" leaning a bit too far forward. Maybe it was a good attempt, but not quite.
Also, these stripes are all totally hosed. Going over the wheel wells is too high, reminds me of those over the hip panties that used to be the rage with women wearing those slit up the side dresses in the 90s. Nothing wrong with the panty lines on high riding panties on women, but paint stripes on that car should follow the wheel well kickout a whole lot better. I mean, it's not hard to find the measurements on the interwebz even if you're not an expert at early 70s Olds restorations. There's also a driver side pic showing the mid-section of the stripe on the rise from the front fender to the front of the rear wheel well. Angled isn't good. And nearly every picture of the body is at an angle. No straight on side or front/back shots.
I do admit, the 70 side mirrors I've always liked better than the 71-72 on that body style, but with the grille, it just looks strange.
Is it fixable? Yes. But there'd take way too much fixing this "restored" car to make it more correct. I'd still drive it around, though. But likely not at the price they're probably seeking.
Ad says over 1200 pictures on Klassic Rides website. I only saw 4. Here's one of them. I'm guessing this is where they started?
Ad says over 1200 pictures on Klassic Rides website. I only saw 4. Here's one of them. I'm guessing this is where they started?
So obviously the car DID have the correct wheels at one time, and the nose had been replaced with a mish-mash of 71 and 72 parts. Gotta wonder about the rear axle swap, but who knows what was done to it in the last 50 years. Still, it's unfortunate that someone put all that work into the car and used the wrong parts. Now they expect to get W-30 money for it. The car will be for sale for a loooooong time.
So obviously the car DID have the correct wheels at one time, and the nose had been replaced with a mish-mash of 71 and 72 parts. Gotta wonder about the rear axle swap, but who knows what was done to it in the last 50 years. Still, it's unfortunate that someone put all that work into the car and used the wrong parts. Now they expect to get W-30 money for it. The car will be for sale for a loooooong time.
All that work into a hack job. Just makes zero sense.
All that work into a hack job. Just makes zero sense.
Makes perfect sense with a little amateur psychology. This is a combo of Dunning-Kreuger and solipsism. Dunning-Kreuger is when you're so ignorant at a subject, you are ignorant of your ignorance, and you think you have it down since you don't know what you don't know. Solipsism is where you think you and your opinion are all that matters. So, whoever restored that had no idea what they were doing and thought they were so awesome only their opinion mattered.
Dunning-Kreuger is when you're so ignorant at a subject, you are ignorant of your ignorance, and you think you have it down since you don't know what you don't know. Solipsism is where you think you and your opinion are all that matters.
Everyone has done a stellar job of picking this car apart and I assume with good solid reasoning due to mis matched parts and what not..however to make a comment like I have seen better amateur restorations is quite the stretch in my opinion if you are talking quality and not parts swapping etc. The quality of the job looks pretty solid to me..
