Chrome bumpers on Rallye 350?
#4
There was no option, however there were dealers who swapped out the yellow for chrome to help sell the cars when they were new - some decided their markets didn't care for the painted look. Every now and then you see the chrome bumper Rallyes, but they weren't shipped from the factory that way. You also see cars with trim rings on the wheels, but that wasn't factory, either.
#5
There was no option, however there were dealers who swapped out the yellow for chrome to help sell the cars when they were new - some decided their markets didn't care for the painted look. Every now and then you see the chrome bumper Rallyes, but they weren't shipped from the factory that way. You also see cars with trim rings on the wheels, but that wasn't factory, either.
The painted bumpers were not particularly popular in 1970 and a lot of Rallye 350s sat on dealer lots for quite a while. Eventually some dealers installed chrome bumpers just to move the cars. Same thing happened to Daytona Chargers - I remember seeing one languishing on a dealer lot in the 70s. Some had the nose and wing removed just to get them sold.
#7
"Correct" is how it left the factory. If the dealer installed a Ford motor, would that be "correct"?
#8
Your deliberately absurd example would, of course, not be true.
From an OEM standpoint, dealer packages are considered warranty coverable, pre sale, work.
I could argue the case of the 67 W-30 OAI package "track pack" cars, where some dealers installed this package pre-sale, but I view the dealer installing the over the counter w-30 package just like a consumer would be, buying it and putting it on himself.
So, while I think a chromed bumper Rallye, while interesting, and maybe worth keeping that way if it can be proven it was sold like that, is not correct, and is less valuable.
From an OEM standpoint, dealer packages are considered warranty coverable, pre sale, work.
I could argue the case of the 67 W-30 OAI package "track pack" cars, where some dealers installed this package pre-sale, but I view the dealer installing the over the counter w-30 package just like a consumer would be, buying it and putting it on himself.
So, while I think a chromed bumper Rallye, while interesting, and maybe worth keeping that way if it can be proven it was sold like that, is not correct, and is less valuable.
#9
But these were not "factory authorized" dealer packages. For example, the passenger side outside mirror was only available as a dealer installed option in 1967, but it was engineered by the factory and authorized by the factory. The replacement of urethane bumpers on Rallye 350s was not. To use a not so deliberately absurd analogy, would the dealer removal of the wing and nose on a Charger Daytona be considered to have "provenance"? Basically the same thing as the Rallye bumpers, just a little more work.
#13
naughty Al
ALLAN did you see the car in person???
These guys are Flim Flam with place on HiWay 65 and more
Yes Oldsmobile dealers did put chrome bumpers on
attempt to sell the cars
These guys are Flim Flam with place on HiWay 65 and more
Yes Oldsmobile dealers did put chrome bumpers on
attempt to sell the cars
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#15
My own personal preference...I prefer the Rallye cars with the yellow bumpers and without wheel trim rings.
Add the chrome and it throws the look off.
They were ahead of their time with the monochromatic look and with all the chrome of the 50's and 60's people just could not accept the look.
Fast forward to 80's... almost everything was going to the no chrome look.
Add the chrome and it throws the look off.
They were ahead of their time with the monochromatic look and with all the chrome of the 50's and 60's people just could not accept the look.
Fast forward to 80's... almost everything was going to the no chrome look.
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#21
I have not heard of anyone else with the QB motor having that balancer though?
Pat
#22
I am pretty sure that the Rallye only came with the standard balancer, and I am not even going to touch the carb. debate, but I have two Rallyes (1 is a 4 speed and 1 Automatic) and neither have a big balancer and both have a 250 carb.
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Pat
#25
When I bought my car it had a carb for a W30 Automatic. My car was an early build and the date code matched up. Was it installed at the factory? Who knows for sure?
#26
NO factory documented W31 Rallye's exist nor do any with W31 parts factory installed. Rock solid documentation has never surfaced for such a beast. Rumors and clone wanta be's abound.
#28
My Rallye had chrome bumpers. I bought it from the original owner in 1980. It also had the chrome trim rings. I took the rims off and added some Cragers all the way around and also some small tires up front and biggies out back. The car was a knock out looker and a one of a kind. I sold the car years ago, but somewhere I do have the window sticker.
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#31
Trying to think if you did it was out side in the parking lot along the fence off of snelling . MY son had it at north st paul a few time and he took it to the state show at the black smith . the Build date is 02D was ordered at Fred Brown olds in Portsmouth Ohio . I know Sonny had his Holiday coupe there its a automatic bucket seat car but that is the only one i remember seeing there . Eddy are you from MN ?
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#32
Trying to think if you did it was out side in the parking lot along the fence off of snelling . MY son had it at north st paul a few time and he took it to the state show at the black smith . the Build date is 02D was ordered at Fred Brown olds in Portsmouth Ohio . I know Sonny had his Holiday coupe there its a automatic bucket seat car but that is the only one i remember seeing there . Eddy are you from MN ?
02D, same as my car. Mine was missing the carb so I have no way to say for sure is mine was a QV or QB. Your build date would make me think mine is likely a QB.
Thanks!
Pat
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