Oldsmobile experimental manifolds
#1
Oldsmobile experimental manifolds
Many topics around subject, googled them all.
There are pictures floating on internet, many posted by Joe Padavano, collecting all cool stuff lying around?
Actually, i had to use those few pictures as a reference alongside to just confirming by eye that ports matches to Olds confiquration, to understand it was a real deal.
Anyways, i bought unmolested 455 4xIDA, or weber-IDA mainfold, whichever you call it. Story of this particular manifold was that it just sat all these years at back of the garage collecting dust until it recently surfaced to earth. Will post pictures when i finally have my hands over it. Its currently travelling from US to Europe.
As ive read, theres not too many excisting. By googling ive found just few pictures of them.
What im more interested, is small-block versions. As ive understand, these manifolds were made to ( just?) Can-Am? Correct if wrong. And there was small-block version of IDA-manifold too. Ive seen pictures on net about it. Actually not too long-ago, one small block-version surfaced to earth on ROP.
Which is more rarely seen, small-block or big-block version? I know there were early fuel-injection manifolds, not to be confused with these.
Someone might shed some light to topic. Joe?
At last, im shouting out really far, but if somebody has small-block version, im willing to trade. Otherwise im keeping it as living-room art. I bought it knowing im not going to do anything with it, and actually been hunting small-block version, but the situation of even seeing one for sale was too good to pass, since after all, its a rare piece of Oldsmobile history.
And about price for such item? Priceless.
This pic is also loaned from internet for exhibit purposes.
There are pictures floating on internet, many posted by Joe Padavano, collecting all cool stuff lying around?
Actually, i had to use those few pictures as a reference alongside to just confirming by eye that ports matches to Olds confiquration, to understand it was a real deal.
Anyways, i bought unmolested 455 4xIDA, or weber-IDA mainfold, whichever you call it. Story of this particular manifold was that it just sat all these years at back of the garage collecting dust until it recently surfaced to earth. Will post pictures when i finally have my hands over it. Its currently travelling from US to Europe.
As ive read, theres not too many excisting. By googling ive found just few pictures of them.
What im more interested, is small-block versions. As ive understand, these manifolds were made to ( just?) Can-Am? Correct if wrong. And there was small-block version of IDA-manifold too. Ive seen pictures on net about it. Actually not too long-ago, one small block-version surfaced to earth on ROP.
Which is more rarely seen, small-block or big-block version? I know there were early fuel-injection manifolds, not to be confused with these.
Someone might shed some light to topic. Joe?
At last, im shouting out really far, but if somebody has small-block version, im willing to trade. Otherwise im keeping it as living-room art. I bought it knowing im not going to do anything with it, and actually been hunting small-block version, but the situation of even seeing one for sale was too good to pass, since after all, its a rare piece of Oldsmobile history.
And about price for such item? Priceless.
This pic is also loaned from internet for exhibit purposes.
Last edited by Inline; January 9th, 2018 at 08:34 AM.
#3
Unfortunately there seems to be far fewer cool manifolds for the SBO, no dual plane, dual quad or factory tripower. The Moon mechanical injection SBO manifold is the coolest IMHO. There is the 307 factory experimental TBI intake for the mighty swirl port.
#4
You mean this?
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/real...3501&mode=view
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/real...3501&mode=view
#5
You mean this?
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/real...3501&mode=view
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/real...3501&mode=view
#6
#7
Olds provided factory support to the CroSal CanAm effort from about 1966 to 1969. The original engines were SBOs and thus there are SBO Weber intakes made. The photo above is one of those. The CroSal team didn't move to the aluminum BBO until the 1968 season, which is when the BBO Weber intakes were made (along with aluminum blocks and heads). The July 1969 issue of Hot Rod had an article about both the aluminum BBO and a two page spread showing John Beltz with a variety of experimental Olds motors, many from the CanAm program. That photo has both SBO and BBO versions of the Weber intake, along with the cross ram dual Qjet intake that I have. Note the back-to-back Qjets on the green SOHC BBO in the back row.
Here are a few shots of the CanAm cars.
Here are a few shots of the CanAm cars.
#9
Olds provided factory support to the CroSal CanAm effort from about 1966 to 1969. The original engines were SBOs and thus there are SBO Weber intakes made. The photo above is one of those. The CroSal team didn't move to the aluminum BBO until the 1968 season, which is when the BBO Weber intakes were made (along with aluminum blocks and heads). The July 1969 issue of Hot Rod had an article about both the aluminum BBO and a two page spread showing John Beltz with a variety of experimental Olds motors, many from the CanAm program. That photo has both SBO and BBO versions of the Weber intake, along with the cross ram dual Qjet intake that I have. Note the back-to-back Qjets on the green SOHC BBO in the back row.
Here are a few shots of the CanAm cars.
Here are a few shots of the CanAm cars.
Wow that is So cool thanks Joe!
#11
That's because the mechanical fuel injection pump is mounted where the original distributor went. The pump incorporated the 90 deg drive for the distributor. The turbo motor used mechanical injection throttle bodies from England that bolted to a Weber manifold. Here's a reprint of the Hot Rod article. Note the photo on the lower LH of the first page. This is the injector pump - the distributor is not installed in this photo.
#14
Thank you Joe,
never managed to find a readable copy of that Hot Rod article, new information there.
Can-Am was fascinating series as off-topic. Atleast looking from now to past.
never managed to find a readable copy of that Hot Rod article, new information there.
Can-Am was fascinating series as off-topic. Atleast looking from now to past.
#15
Finally received it! Felt like a year to get it to my hands.
First notice - wow its light! Just 7,8kg's/ 17,2lbs. This one never reached use, all the passages are there, intake passages are smooth as silk, but misses all bolt-holes/ threads. So i assure this is unused. Not too bad to take in use if one would want.
Well, i now have art on my bookself. Wife approves ( ( atleast it have more value than that glass-crap she collects there ))
Bad picture, but it says ER-13909
First notice - wow its light! Just 7,8kg's/ 17,2lbs. This one never reached use, all the passages are there, intake passages are smooth as silk, but misses all bolt-holes/ threads. So i assure this is unused. Not too bad to take in use if one would want.
Well, i now have art on my bookself. Wife approves ( ( atleast it have more value than that glass-crap she collects there ))
Bad picture, but it says ER-13909
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