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Old Jul 27, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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68 hurst - shark tank discussion

If you haven't seen it on ebay, here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-Oldsmob...dZbRbD&vxp=mtr

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Here you go. I believe the fastest Oldsmobile ever made. 1968 Hurst Olds. 1 of 515 Hurst Olds made in 1968, and 1 of 56 Sports Coupe, 2 door post or 2 door sedans made. The post car was the most rigid, and the lightest car of the 442 models. This is a non-air car. W-45. D Heads. Correct heads, intake, carb, distributor, water pump, pulleys and alternator. The block is NOT numbers matching, as the original block was destroyed racing from Amarillo to Dallas. The dealer replaced the block. Even the oil fill tube was put back. The original owner is alive, and I have his contact information. The second owner passed away. The second owner drove this car to high school in 1970. Engine block had already been changed. Second owner put in the diamond tuck interior, and just cover over the original interior from what I can see. Second owner parked in 1976. It has been in storage until last year. This is a very rare car, and a rare opportunity. Currently the front clip, windshield & interior has been removed to start restoration. I know this is not ideal, but you can see more of the car and also see just how solid it is. I have the protecto plate and warranty card. I also have all Hurst Olds registration documentation, as the car is listed in the registry. This is number #329. I reserve the right to end the auction early. The car is for sale locally. Someone has a standing offer of $26K, but I believe the car is worth more. I would rather complete the sale outside of ebay, but if the auction ends then so be it. If I get a strong offer and the auction is about to be deleted or pulled, I will give the current high bidder a chance to buy. Please come see the car in person or send someone to represent you before the auction ends, as once the auction ends and you are the high bidder you own it. I will accept a deposit of $500 through PayPal. If you have questions, please call 405-999-9999. The car can remain here for storage, but call to discuss length available. I will also help load the car.



I've had someone look at this car for me, but I'm curious of other peoples thoughts. good? bad? ugly? let the feasting begin.
Old Jul 27, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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Gee, I always thought the Aerotech was the FASTEST Oldsmobile ever made (267 MPH).

Now if we are talking about QUICKEST cars...

The car looks solid. Given the NOM, price is optimistic. Gonna cost at least $25K to make that a $50K car.
Old Jul 27, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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If the seller has an offer for 26K, he should take the $ and run. It's a nice starting point, but it's going to be big $ to fix.
Old Jul 27, 2017 | 01:14 PM
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I am no expert but i doubt this car will bring 26 grand. I you have a firm offer i advise you to take it.
Old Jul 27, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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A few months ago, the seller was soliciting input for the value of the car on facebook, under the guise that it was a "client's car". He elected to mock my response and declare that it was worth at least $40k, maybe more...

It's a free country, people can ask what they want, and since it's on eBay, we'll find out what it's worth. It's a neat car, hopefully it ends up in good hands and can make it out for the 50th anniversary next year, even in current condition.
Old Jul 27, 2017 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by junior supercar
I believe the fastest Oldsmobile ever made.
Hmm, I don't think so Tim............
Old Jul 28, 2017 | 05:27 AM
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Cue the band...

Cue the band...The Steve Miler Band that is....


"Go on take the money & run...."
Old Jul 28, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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The seller better hope the offer of $26k is still "standing" when it comes time for the buyer to shell out the money. The car may be rare, but not many 26k buyers based on the current condition.
Old Jul 30, 2017 | 04:48 AM
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I've seen people get their hopes up many times when they think they are holding gold. And I've seen them hold that "gold" for a long time. They usually get rooked themselves and cannot get past it so they convince themselves it is a big $$$ car. Unfortunately that car looks barley worth $2,600. Again, to much Barrett Jackson.
Old Jul 30, 2017 | 06:08 AM
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Ok now, $2600.00 would be at the other end of the "are you kidding me?" scale....
Old Jul 30, 2017 | 06:18 AM
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Unfortunately that car looks barley worth $2,600. Again, to much Barrett Jackson.
Seriously? For a real 1968 H/O? You can't buy a 1968 Cutlass in that condition for $2600.

Market value for this car is probably mid-teens. Both $2600 and $26,000 are delusional numbers.
Old Jul 30, 2017 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
seriously? For a real 1968 h/o? You can't buy a 1968 cutlass in that condition for $2600.

Market value for this car is probably mid-teens. Both $2600 and $26,000 are delusional numbers.
^^^^^^this:d
Old Jul 31, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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Relisted. No bids at $26k
Old Jul 31, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Relisted. No bids at $26k
So you relist it at $38K. I'm sure the bids will be pouring in now...

Some people just need to find out for themselves.
Old Jul 31, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
So you relist it at $38K. I'm sure the bids will be pouring in now...


I'm going to hold off until it goes to $50K.
Old Aug 1, 2017 | 05:12 PM
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i bought this car 6 years ago for 40 k matching #s non a/c d head, original interior except seat covers &rug,orig california car decent repaint,needed exhaust manifolds,tires, calipers rebuilt to be a driver, I thought i was over paying (wanted it for 35ish )but they dont come around much solid, matching numbers. I like this car for sale because its a post non a/c, but depending on the block (warranty stamping ?) and how solid the body 13 - 18 range? top dollar for 68s seems like 60ish to me while 69s bring more and there were almost twice as many made and they were slower! ? I think 68s are much nicer and under rated but thats me

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Old Aug 1, 2017 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by zeeke
I've seen people get their hopes up many times when they think they are holding gold. And I've seen them hold that "gold" for a long time. They usually get rooked themselves and cannot get past it so they convince themselves it is a big $$$ car. Unfortunately that car looks barley worth $2,600. Again, to much Barrett Jackson.



$2600 that's about 15 to 20 years away
Old Aug 2, 2017 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by driverchoice
top dollar for 68s seems like 60ish to me while 69s bring more and there were almost twice as many made and they were slower! ? I think 68s are much nicer and under rated but thats me
There's no rhyme or reason to auction sale prices. To your point, the Oldsmobiles that consistently bring the highest values at auction are the 1970 W-30 convertibles, with AT, A/C, and "restored" with every single option in the book. Given the weight and the 285/287 cam, these are arguably the heaviest, slowest W-30s ever made (I don't count anything after 1972 as a real W-30...), yet they regularly sell for well into six figures. 69 H/Os struggle to break $75K. I have not tracked the pricing on 68s. Go figure.
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Tried twice to sell my 68 w-30 one of 43 made. It reached 70k no sell. The 68 just don't get the money 70's get
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Old Aug 2, 2017 | 04:25 PM
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no doubt 70 w30 is king of the hill for money i was just talking about h/o's (the muscle h/o's 68,69 not the sticker ones )and how upside down you would be in the 68 at that price he wants.and how the cars arent really recognized as that valuable
Old Aug 2, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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Wow, these are really high on my wish list, I too think they are way under valued but saying that this car would be a labor of love.

This guy might be doing the smart thing - perceived value. Didn't get many hits at 26k now asking 38k, someone might actually think 29k is a steal now.
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Originally Posted by driverchoice
i was just talking about h/o's (the muscle h/o's 68,69 not the sticker ones )and how upside down you would be in the 68 at that price he wants.
Kind of the point of this whole thread...
Old Aug 2, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Guys, this is real simple. His wife wants him to sell the car and he shows her the ebay listing and then tell her "Honey, I listed the car and did not get one bid. I tried."
Old Aug 3, 2017 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Kind of the point of this whole thread...
actually not completely.

but there has been some good feedback in the thread

driverchoice, thats a nice hurst (and what you paid is around what it would cost for another one I've located) and nice Ram Rod too. To answer a few of your questions, yes - warranty stamping block. you are one of the very few to comment on the body. seller doesn't state much of anything on condition/dent/rust/repair/accident/original paint or not/etc in the ad. guess that's where the 'see in person' comes in.
Old Aug 3, 2017 | 07:26 PM
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hey thanks for the compliments ,I guess you really want a 68h/o ( was trying to keep the thread on them ).the car looks like it has most of the specific parts ,(missing some wood on the dash,no console,scoop on right)and it actually looks in the pics to be solid and maybe orig paint on right side ,the left and hood looks repainted.looks like it had aftermarket a/c?with that extra pulley on the crank and maybe its the pic but that left frame horn could be funky by the swaybar bushing?but fixable.i think its pretty cool- its a post non a/c,could have some orig markings if its not to molested (mine does really cool) really rare considering 515 made 56 post?(i dont know)and supposedly about 200 total left? but unless you have too much money you cant pay that.its gong to depend on how bad you want that car ,when i bought mine it was more than i wanted to pay but i knew i could make more money easier than finding that nice a car again and i didnt buy it to sell - good luck hope you find what your looking for
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I want a 72 HO some day. Not sunroof. Would consider a convertible. I think I'd want a rally pac, AC and an FM radio if I got to pick options. I'd take power windows.
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I want a 72 HO some day. Not sunroof. Would consider a convertible. I think I'd want a rally pac, AC and an FM radio if I got to pick options. I'd take power windows.
Why not a w30 just saying!
Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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The car is over priced, and any one spending that amount of money would be buried in the cost. The cost to restore the car, and the price of the car would exceed its value.
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Why not a w30 just saying!

Because I want a Hurst Olds. I already have a 442.
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I think the value of the 68/69 cars will increase over time.
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
I think the value of the 68/69 cars will increase over time.
I agree with you. How many guys have seen two 68 hurst oldsmobiles for sale at the same place not restored? How about at the same location a 69 hurst olds as well? Would you believe that there was also a 65 442 and a 67 442 a 68 442 and a 68 cutlass s all at the same location none restored and all for sale.
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When I was looking for a car I came across a 68 H/O that was all original except for A recent paint job. As much as I liked it I just couldn't justify the asking price
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I just got back from my friends home in Clovis, Ca. with his 3 68 H/O's 2 69 H/O's and 20 other Olds 442 Cutlass. I tried my best for three days to get him to sell his cars not to me but to the Olds guys that want Olds cars. Some know this guy if you think you want a 68 or 69 H/O give me a email and i'll let you try who knows ? PM only
Old Aug 7, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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let the feasting begin.
I talked to the owner today and told him any offer over 24K he should take.
He stated he's got an offer of 30 or lows 30s for the car. The east coast buyer is ready to wire the money and have his shipper pick the car up.


Originally Posted by Gerald Nickels
I just got back from my friends home in Clovis, Ca. with his 3 68 H/O's 2 69 H/O's and 20 other Olds 442 Cutlass. I tried my best for three days to get him to sell his cars not to me but to the Olds guys that want Olds cars. Some know this guy if you think you want a 68 or 69 H/O give me a email and i'll let you try who knows ? PM only
I know of Dennis but have lost touch with him. I do recall his recent CL posting about having to sell a bunch of stuff and the pic showed a couple 68 H/Os along with loads of parts.
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Originally Posted by junior supercar
let the feasting begin.
I talked to the owner today and told him any offer over 24K he should take.
He stated he's got an offer of 30 or lows 30s for the car. The east coast buyer is ready to wire the money and have his shipper pick the car up.
And yet, the car is still for sale...
Old Aug 7, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
And yet, the car is still for sale...
you must have been waiting for my reply :-) He just started the process. Call the number in the auction and see.
Old Aug 7, 2017 | 11:32 AM
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you must have been waiting for my reply :-) He just started the process. Call the number in the auction and see.
I've learned that sellers don't want to hear from anyone who has a clue. I wish him luck. Makes my P.O.S. 69 H/O worth that much more...
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I've learned that sellers don't want to hear from anyone who has a clue. I wish him luck. Makes my P.O.S. 69 H/O worth that much more...
LOL yeah now i know how to get more out of my buddy's 68 HO.
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Guys, this is real simple. His wife wants him to sell the car and he shows her the ebay listing and then tell her "Honey, I listed the car and did not get one bid. I tried."

No disrespect to you but I think this line of thought it was overused. There is juts a lot of "optimistic" people out there
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it's gone. sold for $32K



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