Octania

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-C...US_Cars_Trucks

It sounds like they took the VIN tag and body plate off the real 442 which was not a convertible and made a Cutlass convertible into a "442" with the wrong body style listed on the VIN.

VIN is listed as "33677E150370"

they may have gotten a LITTLE carried away with the ol' "factory pen scratchin' marks"



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"1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Convertible

Complete correct 442 drivetrain, 400cid with correct coded C heads, OG coded Transmission, etc...

( This is a rust free car. original sheetmetal and floors )

When the restoration was done. They had 2 1968 Cutlass's a 442 hardtop that was in need of rust repair. And a super clean Loaded Cutlass S convertible. So they transferred the complete 442 driveline into the loaded Convertible

Loaded with options. 400 cid, OG turbo 400 transmission, Factory Air conditioning, Power disc brakes, Power steering, Power convertible top, Power windows, Factory Power antena, Light group, Sway bars, etc...

100's of hours spent on bodywork and paint.

Arrow straight Jet black 2 stage paint that has been wetsanded and buffed to a mirror finish.

The car has had a complete restoration.

Engine rebuilt to W-30 spec, OG Turbo transmission rebuilt with performance clutches, All front suspension rebuilt,including springs, New brake lines, master cylinder, battery, starter, water pump, Correct exhaust manifolds, New dual exhaust, , etc...

She is ready to go. 40,000 invested.

This car is registered for auction at the Atlantic city convention center "classic car auction". Scheduled for prime time Saturday Feb 28th at 1:30 pm. If not sold here it will be on display in Atlantic city from Thursday the 26th to its auction time on Saturday. Good luck and don't miss out.

Please feel free to call Patrick with any questions at
215-630-6762

Or visit us on the web at : www.specialtycars.us

BangScreech4-4-2

Well, your way would be illegal. It sounds to me like they just put all the 442 equipment from the legit 442 hardtop onto the 'S' convertible. Which is fine until the next owner tries to pass it off as a 442, hoping that nobody bothers to look at the VIN.

joe_padavano

Read the original post again. The car is a CONVERTIBLE with a Sport Coupe VIN. Someone swapped VINs or at least complete cowls.

allyolds68

I'll bet it's a typo.


If you're going to do a 68 VIN swap why use a Cutlass VIN.

joe_padavano

Well, the listing was ended due to an alleged error...

In any case, looking at the photos, there's a 5.0 Mustang air cleaner base, the wrong master cylinder, an aftermarket intake, etc, etc. The car sure looks like it's been fabricated from a bunch of parts.

Junkman

If the seller had just left the original tags on the car, and said that it was built to be what he wanted, then there would be no problem. Once you swap VIN's, you open yourself to all sorts of violations of both state and federal laws. This is why all the auction houses are so careful not to accept cars that have a tainted pedigree. You can change everything on the car except for the VIN, and not get into hot water. Now, this car is forever tainted, and the only possible salvation is if it can be proven to be legitimate with its original paperwork, and a state issued VIN. It would take an experienced LEO about 10 - 15 minutes to find the true VIN, unless it was deliberately destroyed, in which case, there would be even greater consequences for the person that did this.

Octania

VIN is listed as "33677E150370"

Which bothered me, because a convertible would have to be

336_67_E blah blah blah

SIXTY SEVEN body type.

Indeed, why not put the 442 VIN tag if messing up that bad?

That air cleaner got me- lid covers just the filter. WTH is the point in having ANY snouts or indeed any of the lower housing outside the filter?

Durrrrrrr.

BangScreech4-4-2

It's a mistake. Why would anybody go to the effort of doing that?

allyolds68

So, being the pot stirrer that I am, I had to contact them:



They replied:


I actually believe him, although "inverted" numbers don't really explain the problem............

68_convert

Anything is possible when dealing with the dmv. I purchased a 1966 pontiac lemans convet. Title was missing 2 digits. I had him write me a bill of sale. It was a tiny bit of hassle. I made one phone call and stopped by the OHP to verify vin number was not messed with. Turns out. The car was mis titled in 1968 when the original owner sold the car. Took them a few weeks to find it as the had to go thru microfiche to find it. One letter from kansas and one more trip to the tag agency and I was the second (lol) owner of the car. But AANYONE that put $40k into a car would have done this before the build not leave it up to someone else.

oldcutlass

I have run into vin# title issues in the past, it's more common than you think.

1969w3155

you too? well I pointed out how the feds would not care for a vin swap, they said that it was a typo, and tried to change it on the ebay listing but couldn't for some reason.