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Old November 11th, 2010, 10:57 AM
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Who wants to play "guess the selling price?"

Mecum has a 750 car auction coming up in early December (2-4) in Kansas City.

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/consig...consignday=All

In all of those 750 cars, only three are Oldsmobiles.

Anyone want to play a little game of guessing what they'll sell for? We can keep track of the guesses, and the three winners (one for each) each get a free, one-year subscription to classicoldsmobile.com!



Here are the three cars. The descriptions are exactly as they appear on the Mecum website. Yes, the street rod has a Chevy engine, but it's still an Olds.


Lot F195.1
1970 Oldsmobile W30 442 455 CI, 4-Speed


- NOM 455 CI
- 4-speed
- Tach gauges
- Air conditioning
- Power steering
- Power disc brakes
- AM/FM 8-track
- Console
- Bucket seats
- W 27 rear diff cover
- Posi 4.30 gears
- 1968 D heads
- Dealer in Joplin raced for many years runs excellent
- Originally auto changed to a 4-speed very early in its life
- Gold interior changed to Black also early in its life
- Exterior color correct
- No build sheet
- Real nice car super fast!!!










Lot T150
1957 Oldsmobile Golden Rocket 88 Sport Coupe
371 CI

- California car with straight body and sheet metal
- Powered by a 371 CI V-8 with a 4 barrel carbuetor
- Dual exhaust
- Automatic transmission
- Power steering
- Power brakes
- 1957 was the only year Olsmobile produced this model with the three piece rear window











Lot F89 1948 Oldsmobile Street Rod Sedan

- Corvette Red
- Very nice chrome
- Aluminum wheels
- Custom interior, leather and cloth
- Tilt column
- Console
- Automatic transmission
- Digital dash
- Supercharged small block Chevrolet
- Dual Holley's
- Headers
- Weiand Blower
- Air conditioning
- Bob Glidden signature wheels










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Old November 11th, 2010, 11:01 AM
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I'll start the guessing.

1970 442: $45,000

1957 88: $25,000

1948 street rod: $31,000
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Old November 11th, 2010, 11:16 AM
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That 442 looks suspicious. Mirrors look wrong, Cutlass Supreme Taillights and of course all of the things in the listing that say run away!
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Old November 11th, 2010, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 6inarow
That 442 looks suspicious. Mirrors look wrong, Cutlass Supreme Taillights and of course all of the things in the listing that say run away!
Fine. So what's your guess as to what it will sell for? Even a bad clone would likely sell for a few dollars, don't you think?
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Old November 11th, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:03 PM
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I'm in.

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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:10 PM
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:14 PM
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Wow, lots of different numbers I'm seeing.
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:17 PM
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All right! So far:

1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,00

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000


Thanks, and keep 'em comin'!
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Joffroi
Wow, lots of different numbers I'm seeing.
Yeah, where's yours?!?! Remember, there's a year's free membership on CO at stake!
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:41 PM
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I think the '57 will bring the most.....those cars are much less common and very desirable. Obviously the 442 is a hot car but I think that Eighty Eight is so sweet. I'm not really into the street rod so much but it's still an Olds (aside from the motor!)
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:51 PM
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Hmmmm, I'll bite....

39,500
29,500
22,500 (Che^y?!?!)
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Old November 11th, 2010, 12:56 PM
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A 1970 "W-30" with 4spd, A/C, and "4.30" gears???



Yeah, it says the AT was swapped "early". I'm guessing all that other stuff was added at other than the factory.

Back to my comment in the thread about the 1966 Track Pack.
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I have no idea so I'm going to hope for price is right rules.....

$1
$1
$1 bob (or drew)
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Old November 11th, 2010, 01:18 PM
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Updated:


1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,00

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000

76 Regency
$37,000
$48,000
$24,000

71supreme
$39,500
$29,500
$22,500
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
A 1970 "W-30" with 4spd, A/C, and "4.30" gears???



Yeah, it says the AT was swapped "early". I'm guessing all that other stuff was added at other than the factory.

Back to my comment in the thread about the 1966 Track Pack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a clone. So what's it going to sell for?

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Originally Posted by Joffroi
I have no idea so I'm going to hope for price is right rules.....

$1
$1
$1 bob (or drew)
Nah, we ain't doin' it this way. We need real numbers. Closest is closest, whether you're above it or below it. On TPIR, you're actually trying to win the thing. That's not the case here.
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
Nah, we ain't doin' it this way. We need real numbers. Closest is closest, whether you're above it or below it. On TPIR, you're actually trying to win the thing. That's not the case here.
I wouldn't mind winning one
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Old November 11th, 2010, 02:07 PM
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I'm game!

$37,000.
$23,000.
$33,000.
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Including Jaybird. Glad to have you.


1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,00

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000

76 Regency
$37,000
$48,000
$24,000

71supreme
$39,500
$29,500
$22,500

Jaybird
$37,000
$23,000
$33,000
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Yeah the 70' may be a clone, but I really like it! Here are my bids.

$28,501
$32,000
$36,000

BTW I thought membership to CO was free? Oh wait....I get it...lol
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Old November 11th, 2010, 05:31 PM
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The latest.

italianice, I like the decimals.

cutlassjoe, $28,501? Good strategy!


1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,00

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000

76 Regency
$37,000
$48,000
$24,000

71supreme
$39,500
$29,500
$22,500

Jaybird
$37,000
$23,000
$33,000

stevengerard
$28,500
$33,000
$38,000

italian ice
$31,500
$37,900
$28,500

cutlassjoe
$28,501
$32,000
$36,000
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Old November 12th, 2010, 04:34 AM
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OK...I'll throw out some numbers

1. 29,500
2. 32,900
3. 24,500
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Old November 12th, 2010, 05:03 AM
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Thank you. I've decided that there will be, in addition to the three first-place prizes (one for each car), an overall grand prize given to the person whose TOTAL difference is the smallest. In other words, we'll add up the sale prices of the three cars, and we'll add up each person's predictions, and whoever has the total nearest the actual total wins.

The grand prize consists of a year AND A HALF of free membership to CO. Plus, the awards are additive. If you win all three individual awards AND the grand prize, you will win 4.5 years of CO membership. If you like, you can ask for some or all of that in the form of gift certificates. They'd make great stocking-stuffers for that hard-to-buy-for friend or person-who-has-everything this upcoming holiday season!

I've added totals to everyone's entries. I've also noted at the end the averages of all the guesses for each car and the total of the averages.


1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod
4. total

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000
$101,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600
$73,300

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,000
$98,000

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000
$89,000

76 Regency
$37,000
$48,000
$24,000
$109,000

71supreme
$39,500
$29,500
$22,500
$91,500

Jaybird
$37,000
$23,000
$33,000
$93,000

stevengerard
$28,500
$33,000
$38,000
$99,500

italian ice
$31,500
$37,900
$28,500
$97,900

cutlassjoe
$28,501
$32,000
$36,000
$95,501

Bunser
$29,500
$32,900
$24,500
$86,900

averages
$33,309
$32,100
$28,736
$94,146
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How about: #1 $33,500 #2 $27,000 #3 $34,000 ?
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Old November 12th, 2010, 06:07 PM
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Gavel Price? What if they don't sell (reserve not met)? How does that figure into the stakes?

I've been to a couple of Mecum auctions in St Charles Il. Lots of no-sales at those events.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 06:38 PM
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Maybe it should be called "who wants to guess the highest bid". I don't think the guesses I made will result in a sale. Especially the W-30ish car.
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Thank you Mr. Hoff.


1. '70 442
2. '57 88
3. '49 street rod
4. total

jaunty75
$45,000
$25,000
$31,000
$101,000

gearheads78
$26,400
$29,300
$17,600
$73,300

68Tom
$39,500
$27,500
$31,000
$98,000

6inarow
$24,000
$35,000
$30,000
$89,000

76 Regency
$37,000
$48,000
$24,000
$109,000

71supreme
$39,500
$29,500
$22,500
$91,500

Jaybird
$37,000
$23,000
$33,000
$93,000

stevengerard
$28,500
$33,000
$38,000
$99,500

italian ice
$31,500
$37,900
$28,500
$97,900

cutlassjoe
$28,501
$32,000
$36,000
$95,501

Bunser
$29,500
$32,900
$24,500
$86,900

dhoff
$33,500
$27,000
$34,00
$94,500

averages
$33,325
$31,675
$29,175
$94,175
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Originally Posted by Cameo White
Gavel Price? What if they don't sell (reserve not met)? How does that figure into the stakes?
Good point. I think we have to do the same as the auction does. If the car doesn't sell, we don't know the selling price. Sometimes they sell later with that "the bidding goes on" thing, and if it sells over the course of the weekend, they'll put the price on the Mecum website.

But if any of these don't sell, there is no winner for that car. Simple as that.
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Originally Posted by 6inarow
Maybe it should be called "who wants to guess the highest bid".
But the highest bid, if not accepted, is not the selling price. Gotta be the selling price.
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Contest organizers have decided to add yet one more prize for the overall winner. A great deal has just become available on Mexican Riviera cruises. A ship called the Carnival Splendor is available, and the weekly rate is very cheap at $14.95 per person. Of course, the ship doesn't leave port, it has no electricity, all the food is gone or spoiled, and the ship only looks like it's moving because what remains of the crew just moves paintings of ocean scenery past the portholes, but you can't beat the price!


Of course, an alternative cruise is available on virtually any other cruise line, and the ships really do leave port. The winner gets a free one. However, there is a $2,500 per person "handling fee" payable in advance.
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Contest organizers have decided to add one more prize for the overall winner. The Carnival Splendor is available, and the weekly rate is very cheap at $14.95 per person. Blah, blah, blah... You can't beat the price!
I'm in for that one!!!

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Good point. I think we have to do the same as the auction does. If the car doesn't sell, we don't know the selling price. Sometimes they sell later with that "the bidding goes on" thing, and if it sells over the course of the weekend, they'll put the price on the Mecum website.

But if any of these don't sell, there is no winner for that car. Simple as that.
Thats a whole different story then. My guesses are what the bids would go to. That has nothing to do with what an owner thinks his car is worth in this market. Guessing an auction price is guessing what people are willing to pay. Does not matter if the car sells or not.
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Via a supersecret calculation process

1. 22550
2. 31020
3. 29503
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1. 31,000 I think educated buyers will know it is pieced together
2. 34,000 To many old guys with money that want a '57 olds
3. 33,000 Again old guys have money and want a car with a blower. Plus a bitchin interior.
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Originally Posted by gearheads78
Thats a whole different story then.
What does this mean? Do you want to withdraw your predictions? Change them? What?
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