Anybody see the episode last night. They featured a 71 442 convertible. Nice car, gold with white interior. I was just curious why they did'nt open the hood, every other car they evaluate we get to see the motor. Anyway, car sold for 33k, way below the experts and auction companys predictions.

 

its listed on ebay now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsm...fCarsQ5fTrucks

 

Man I hate people that buy Old cars for Profit! Go buy Gold Jack-offs, and leave the old cars to people who care about them.

 

Funny, my price guide says the range for a 1970-'71 442 Convertible is $24,000 to $35,000. I guess it's all horseshoes and hand grenades when it comes to "non-experts" outspending each other just to get a car they "wanted" even if it's "overpriced."

[And if they get $60k on eBay great for them, terrible for the guy who WAY overpays...]

 

auto editor you hit the nail on the head. No way is that car worth 60k. Although a nice restoration, the attention to detail sucks. The left door power window switch is in the wrong place and why are the front headlights angled in toward the front grill. My 72 Cutlass is'nt like that. That stuff makes me nuts.

 

Probably someone is still trying to "recoup their investment"... Fat chance. You never get your money back out of a high end restoration unless you have the rarest of the rare cars. At least on the ebay listing there are shots showing the engine compt, underbody and trunk.....

For 71, the front bumperettes are properly positioned. They were later moved so they were more to the center.

BTW did anyone else notice the 'professional' mistake putting the headlight bezels on the wrong sides? Gives incorrect spacing between the hood line and grills. I guess you 'align' the lights by shifting from side to side and adding weight in the trunk...


And for 60 large, I think that they could have freshened up the bright work on the 'faux' vents - middle of the dash, and the lower dash bright reveal.


There are other really nice looking 71 442s listed, but this one appears to be the 'bargain' at only 60 large. Heck, the car is nice but will only bring in what people are willing to pay. With today's economy it's only the rich (or those who are robbing Peter to pay Paul) who can afford to buy toys like this

 

Sorry,its the right door

 

I noticed the bezels right away. Seems to be a very common mistake for some reason. It's obvious that they are angled to keep even bumper spacing yet people don't get it.

 

I agree there are bad people out there buying and selling real estate, gold, cars or what ever but to say you you hate all people that are in it for profit???

Every dime I have ever put into cars ,shop, tools ect has come from me buying , selling , fixing , flipping ect. I don't use my day job money for my car habit.

 

This car was bought at Auction for $23,000, not $33,000. He's asking alomost 40K more than he paid. Sorry thats the way I feel about these jack-offs. I like to see the cars on the road with people enjoying them, not in some clowns collection of 800 cars. Thats where most of these end up.

 

I am not saying you are not right about this instance and many others but saying you hate anyone who sells a car for profit?? Thats what I am getting at.

As for the car at hand its a TV show. Theres not much reality in reality TV

 

60K ... 60K? Holy $h!+. This kind of stuff always makes me question what heck I got into this for. I've only got day-job money (and I work night-and-day for it). There isn't a whole heck of a lot of it, esp. with the economy in the crapper.

I'm there with you on that one. I am in this for the hobby - keeping the car on the road and keeping the memory of what these cars meant. If you buy the car with the only goal of gouging the crap out of the next guy ... well that's not what this is supposed to be about.

On the upside, the pics in the ebay ad answered a question I had about how to mount the toe-board under the dash and a few other minor things. I bet the owner would be pi$$ed off that I got something for free out of his ad.

 

Sorry but you are incorrect. I watched the episode again and the car sold at that auction for 33k. Plus the guy that evaluates the condition of the car gave it a 2 on a scale of 1 to 6.

 

This thread illustrates why "flippers" should choose their "projects" more carefully. If you find a "niche" model for cheap that has needs, you HAVE to remember that your eventual target audience will actually know something about the car in question.

I've seen cars go for thousands more than their buy-in price just because someone took the time to detail the damn thing. And while you can pretty much paint any '57/'58 Plymouth red and double its value for the "Christine" crowd (or a '69 Camaro orange as a faux Z/28), for less common models you're trapped between the folks that want it cheap because its red or its top goes down and the collectors that care that it's "one of 100" or "a one-year-only model."

This thing is dead-center: too nice for cheapskates and too poorly-done for high-end buyers. Their only hope is that an actually- (and correctly-) restored one CAN bring $60k, so they have $20+ grand they can spend to get it "just right" and still make money on it.

[Then again maybe someone who wants it bad enough will buy it as-is for the asking price. A fool and his money... ]

 

gearheads78 -my meaning was for this type of flippers,, of course not the corner gear head and muscle car nuts who make a few bucks restoring cars.

 

Yeah, I guess that's the difference. I don't mind paying a guy for his work (or being paid for my work). But that's honest work -

This reeks of a dealer trying to make money selling to a guy who has too much of it.

Since the ad mentions it, I was thinking of asking a question like "you mean the show where it sold for 33K?".

 

well, its actually in pretty decent shape I'd say way worth the 33k not sure about 59.5k though. As others have pointed out definitely some details that need to be fixed but relatively easy fixes. Interestingly, the car has 1970 fenders, that kills me, all of us 70 guys looking for 70 fenders when 71 and 72 are relatively more prevalent UGH.

Has snap-on SSIIs and then has an SS1 in the trunk

but over all looks good.

 

For those that did not see the auction:

 

Just not goin here!!!!!!! Capitalism at work!