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What would be the most expensive Olds to sell today?
I was reading the thread on cloning, and thought about what would actually be an Olds worthy of a complete fraud assembly, and had the thought of what would be the most expensive Olds to hit the market were it to be sold today into the collector scene. I can think of a few contenders.
Top Tier
1. A 1912 Limited went for 3.3 million at Sotheby's.
2. Golden Rocket 1956 prototype (No record of it being destroyed or still existing)
3. The one electric 1899 Phaeton left, currently at REO Museum.
4. A hypothetical complete concept W-43 442 if one existed from back then
5. The F-88 1954 concept car.
High dollar tier
A: Kryta's W-43 assembled 442
B: '68 H/O convertible 4 speed prototype
C: Fouronado.
D: 1969 Apollo 442
E: '68 442 Mod Rod
F: 70 or 72 Pace Cars that are actually the track cars, with provenance.
Excellent list. The only thing that comes to my mind might be the Pike’s Peak car(s) or Smothers Brothers cars and I’m not even sure if I’m barking up the right trees.
The twin engine Toronado should be on the list too
The 69 Hurst Olds convert belonged to Jim Battle back in the 80's and it was sold to Kelly in Iowa where it remained until he passed away. That pic was taken in 1986 at the first BOP show in Arizona Doc Watson also had his 86 Hurst Olds there
I was reading the thread on cloning, and thought about what would actually be an Olds worthy of a complete fraud assembly, and had the thought of what would be the most expensive Olds to hit the market were it to be sold today into the collector scene. I can think of a few contenders.
Top Tier
1. A 1912 Limited went for 3.3 million at Sotheby's.
2. Golden Rocket 1956 prototype (No record of it being destroyed or still existing)
3. The one electric 1899 Phaeton left, currently at REO Museum.
4. A hypothetical complete concept W-43 442 if one existed from back then
5. The F-88 1954 concept car.
High dollar tier
A: Kryta's W-43 assembled 442
B: '68 H/O convertible 4 speed prototype
C: Fouronado.
D: 1969 Apollo 442
E: '68 442 Mod Rod
F: 70 or 72 Pace Cars that are actually the track cars, with provenance.
As you know I am a Arizona resident . I was browsing C.O. one day when I noticed a P.M. pop up from a member that said "hey I noticed you have a 56 Olds, I have something you may be interested in, I responded to the P.M. to learn this gentleman had a case of oil filter cartridges that would fit my Olds some from the 50's in their original packaging ! the stipulation was I had to pick them up no shipping , I agreed to pick them up that weekend ,he gave me directions to a place I had never been before in the foothills of the mountains once I entered the area I knew this was a person who didn't acquire these when they fell off a truck on the way to the flea market, he told me just to beep the horn when I arrived . I pulled up to a large multi door garage separate from the beautiful home which also had a connected multi car garage.
The man introduced himself as Fred I believe, he invited me in to the garage I was immediately floored by what I saw !! a exquisite collection of Oldsmobile's with I believe a Ferrari, Mercedes gull wing and a Jag thrown in for good measure !! The garage was filled with assorted memorabilia and neon and separate shops complete with lifts and cars in various stages of restoration. Then he showed me the Fouranado, I had no idea what I was looking at !! he gave me a brief history of the vehicle and referred me to a article in Hemmings.The vehicle was pristine !! this man could have not been less pretentious and was very gracious ! I thanked him for his time, offered to pay him for the filters ( he declined) I left green with envy what a collection !!
So Fred must have been a member at one time to see my post, I have since sold the Olds and presented the new owner with the filters but not the story of how I acquired them. Thanks Frank !!
As you know I am a Arizona resident . I was browsing C.O. one day when I noticed a P.M. pop up from a member that said "hey I noticed you have a 56 Olds, I have something you may be interested in, I responded to the P.M. to learn this gentleman had a case of oil filter cartridges that would fit my Olds some from the 50's in their original packaging ! the stipulation was I had to pick them up no shipping , I agreed to pick them up that weekend ,he gave me directions to a place I had never been before in the foothills of the mountains once I entered the area I knew this was a person who didn't acquire these when they fell off a truck on the way to the flea market, he told me just to beep the horn when I arrived . I pulled up to a large multi door garage separate from the beautiful home which also had a connected multi car garage.
The man introduced himself as Fred I believe, he invited me in to the garage I was immediately floored by what I saw !! a exquisite collection of Oldsmobile's with I believe a Ferrari, Mercedes gull wing and a Jag thrown in for good measure !! The garage was filled with assorted memorabilia and neon and separate shops complete with lifts and cars in various stages of restoration. Then he showed me the Fouranado, I had no idea what I was looking at !! he gave me a brief history of the vehicle and referred me to a article in Hemmings.The vehicle was pristine !! this man could have not been less pretentious and was very gracious ! I thanked him for his time, offered to pay him for the filters ( he declined) I left green with envy what a collection !!
So Fred must have been a member at one time to see my post, I have since sold the Olds and presented the new owner with the filters but not the story of how I acquired them. Thanks Frank !!
That was very nice and I am still a member as I have been since 2013. While my collection of cars have been mostly sold off and replaced with some late model performance cars and a few exotics there are 2 Oldsmobile's that will not be sold off. The 70 and 71 W30 converts had been sold once before and I was lucky enough to get them back so they are permanent members of our family now.
I am glad those filters continued on to the new owner of the car.
One car I would add to the list would be a legitimate 1964 4-4-2 Four Door model. There were allegedly 7-10 made.
I doubt one would bring astronomical money, but they are extremely rare and I think very desirable if they could be proven to be authentic.
I can confirm they made at least one. I rode in the car and went to school with a guy whose parents owned it. It was a "Baby Blue" 4 door, dark blue interior with the appropriate 442 badging. I was being used to market the "Police Apprehender" version to police departments. It was supposedly ordered by the Oldsmobile Zone Office in Omaha, Nebraska. It was traded in at a Cadillac & Olds dealership by the factory Rep for a different car and sold locally. I have been on the hunt to find that car, for years and years.
I can confirm they made at least one. I rode in the car and went to school with a guy whose parents owned it. It was a "Baby Blue" 4 door, dark blue interior with the appropriate 442 badging. I was being used to market the "Police Apprehender" version to police departments. It was supposedly ordered by the Oldsmobile Zone Office in Omaha, Nebraska. It was traded in at a Cadillac & Olds dealership by the factory Rep for a different car and sold locally. I have been on the hunt to find that car, for years and years.
It is really cool that you got to experience one. I think it is just a really unique car, and I hope that a survivor turns up one day. Good luck with your search!
And just for clarity, my "allegedly" was really about the numbers made and not whether or not they ever existed.
What about my 68? It's a clone/recreation of another car that may have been made at one time or another. This is a one of one car as you all know. (shopping carts optional)