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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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U.S vs Canadian built cars

I recently purchased a Canadian built 1968 Cutlass S. Other than having the Chevy 12 bolt rear, are there any other differences between the U.S built and Canadian built cars?
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 05:59 AM
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One nice difference is that you can get a complete data sheet from GM Canada. US cars can’t.
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jk828
I recently purchased a Canadian built 1968 Cutlass S. Other than having the Chevy 12 bolt rear, are there any other differences between the U.S built and Canadian built cars?
Congratulations on buying a car made in Oshawa. There's no difference in body, drivetrain or options. However, that said the majority of Canadian built cars did not get air conditioning as it just isn't needed as much in a cooler climate.

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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
There's difference in body, drivetrain or options.
Not in 1968. The primary difference was the Type C rear axle. The parts book also shows different part numbers for front spindles, steering arms, and lower ball joints on Canadian-built Cutlii. The lower control arm assembly with ball joint also has a unique P/N for this reason. Brake drum/hub and disc brake rotor and hub are also different P/Ns, and the drums are even different RH/LH. Wheel studs are different P/N as well. There is no explanation of the differences, however. Brake backing plates are the same P/N.
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Not in 1968. The primary difference was the Type C rear axle. The parts book also shows different part numbers for front spindles, steering arms, and lower ball joints on Canadian-built Cutlii. The lower control arm assembly with ball joint also has a unique P/N for this reason. Brake drum/hub and disc brake rotor and hub are also different P/Ns, and the drums are even different RH/LH. Wheel studs are different P/N as well. There is no explanation of the differences, however. Brake backing plates are the same P/N.
Unfortunately for us, part numbers on an identical part made by two different suppliers can be a different number because that part number often denotes the supplier. On the other hand, two different part numbers may well mean two very different parts, two parts that are slightly different but the difference doesn't affect anything, or two parts that look the same but have a small difference that is critical.
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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Unfortunately for us, part numbers on an identical part made by two different suppliers can be a different number because that part number often denotes the supplier. On the other hand, two different part numbers may well mean two very different parts, two parts that are slightly different but the difference doesn't affect anything, or two parts that look the same but have a small difference that is critical.
Trust me, I understand configuration control (the aerospace industry is much more stringent in that case than the automotive industry) but this was not the case in 1968. There are many instances of identical parts from different suppliers with the same P/N and slight physical differences. If parts were functionally the same, they had the same part number.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Not in 1968. The primary difference was the Type C rear axle. The parts book also shows different part numbers for front spindles, steering arms, and lower ball joints on Canadian-built Cutlii. The lower control arm assembly with ball joint also has a unique P/N for this reason. Brake drum/hub and disc brake rotor and hub are also different P/Ns, and the drums are even different RH/LH. Wheel studs are different P/N as well. There is no explanation of the differences, however. Brake backing plates are the same P/N.
Actually Joe, my fingers skipped over the "no" difference in body etc. Not sure why part numbers were different, but ok. BTW, wasn't another difference that Canadian built also had 3.07:1 gears whereas US built had 3.08:1?
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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Actually Joe, my fingers skipped over the "no" difference in body etc. Not sure why part numbers were different, but ok. BTW, wasn't another difference that Canadian built also had 3.07:1 gears whereas US built had 3.08:1?
Yes, but that's a function of the Chevy axle, which had different ratios due to the different ring gear diameter (the exact tooth counts were different).
Old Feb 14, 2021 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by old greybeard
One nice difference is that you can get a complete data sheet from GM Canada. US cars can’t.
Any car built in the US and exported to Canada for original sale can also get a complete data sheet.
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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true 65 canadian built seem to be like hens teeth, only read about one , never seen documents
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 09:52 AM
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I know this was the case with Canadian Chebbies but I'm not sure about Olds: was the firewall painted body color instead of chassis black?
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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I know this was the case with Canadian Chebbies but I'm not sure about Olds: was the firewall painted body color instead of chassis black?
My 69 is black
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 10:48 AM
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My 69 is black
And it was built in Oshawa?
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 10:52 AM
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And my '68's Oshawa built are black as well as a few others.
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 11:31 AM
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And it was built in Oshawa?
Yes


Old Feb 15, 2021 | 12:07 PM
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65s were body color
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