In my opinion if you don't like the lines it came with from factory, why did you buy the car in the first place. If you want a car that looks like a Buick or Chev buy a Buick or Chev.

 

If you feel like using your fab skills, get a chevelle and turn it into a cutlass....

 

Its not that I dont like the lines at all, again these are just renderings of possible fascias for the cutlass,again im not impleenting that i dont like the olds, as a matter of fact,when i decided to get a muscle car,it was between this and a 70 chevelle, Guess which one i went with?

anyway I decided to fix the trim options on the rendering because you guys said you'd accept it if i made these changes.
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Do it!

 

Look´s like a repair job after a front crash, without the nessasary supply of spare parts. Sorry.

Stanley

 

at least i have 1 member on my side right?

 

We get those old cars to play with if you enjoy doing mods to the car then do it.fun fun fun!

 

we get those older cars to play with, if you like ugly then do it.you can allways change it again. beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

 

c-nile virus

 

Ummm, Chevelle? BTW when the 4 lamp headlight system is in use, you get high beams WITH the low beams (all 4 on at the same time). Not possible to have the inner high beams on by themselves unless you got 2 burned out low beams or the wiring is screwed up.

??? Where in the previous posts did you read that??? I recall most of the guys saying leave it stock......well except for 2 loose radicals......but then I don't worry about the excellent front end design already put there 38 years ago by Olds. In fact most people who see my car have commented the same way.

 

I can help with that.

 

NO!!looks like a buickwhy do that

 

Yes I am on your side. Its your car. Make it what YOU enjoy.
People should embrace creativity and expression. Why cram everyone into the same mold.

 

mmm no and no,

i'd like the factory nose at most.

and if i want to change something to look a bite bruteful, i painted the headlight covers same color as body that the grill get the eyecatch thing
bit a pitty that on my 69' 88 the lightcovers are the same patern as the grill.

But stock is stock and it is good for me

I like the somewhat like a shark nose whit the brutal grill, and fore tast, my opinion is to let it be stock.

my friend have differend kind of vehicles, buick gs, dodge charger r/t, jeep cj 5, and another one i don't know the type.
And i like my delta 88 the most for it's look's,

tel my friend al the time.....................olds rules

 

I don't think the issue is about taking sides. I also don't think we're saying Kidcutty isn't being creative. You're right, it is his car and he can do what he pleases with it. The whole point of this thread was he wanted our opinion - he asked what we think, and that's exactly what responses he got.

I get the impression that Kidcutty is simply "stirring the pot" of the community. But then again, he's just a newbie and may be testing the water of this forum. greenslade is also a newbie and possibly doesn't have a feel for what most of us appreicate in Classics. You've been around since 2007 and probably know that most of CO is more dedicated to OEM standards. I fully appreciate that Kid bought a Cutlass. It had to have some appeal or he would have gone Chevelle. If he wanted to do something like his renderings to the car, he doesn't need to ask us for input he could just go ahead and do it. There are still plenty of front end parts on the market so the car can be returned to original appearance if the project goes sour. I also understand that with technology it's much easier to anticipate what the finished car will look like when done by using tools like photoshop. What I don't understand is why he seems to want our community approval for something that most of us don't endorse. So I'm inclined to think that he still isn't committed to his project other than getting better at using photoshop. The whole point is really moot when you think about it; everyone is right in their own opinion.
I would take the feedback as an indicator from this community and nothing more. If I wanted to modify the car I would do it anyway without asking for permission and just show it off afterwards. Sometimes during fabrication, original ideas change on the fly to something even more creative and (gasp) functional. So the concept doesn't always end up looking exactly like the final result, right? Kids creativity is exactly that, but he also seems to want other people to participate in his decision making, so there's some reservations. Most do not appear to favor the proposed concepts that were rendered. Everyone has their own reasons for saying what they did. When it comes to creativity and expression, it's a lot like going to an art gallery. Some of the most creative works may be seen as hideous by some, beauty by others, and some just don't care because a picture is a picture. That's why there's a lot of starving artists out there; they don't sell a lot of their creativity. In the end they either change jobs or meet market expectation. I've seen lots of modified cars that would fall into the same situation. If Kidcutty want's to modify his car any number of times to satisfy his creative license, I don't think anyone really cares. Just don't expect to see the traditionalists on this forum jump up and applaud what we don't agree with, fair enough?

BTW Kidcutty, post a pic of the car you bought so we can see what you're really starting with ok? The photoshop pics you posted are of 2 completely different cars that appear to be in really good condition, which is why I think most of us are against changing something that doesn't need fixing.

 

ooglee

 

Allan R hit the nail on the head. I would rather see creativity in the paint job and wheel combo than metal work on this car. Richard is also right older cars and pickup are better to modify the bodies on.

If you want to do a lot of metal work you can come and help me fix the rust in mine.

 

Here's a pic of one I found on cragslist that has been fixed up like what kidcutty had in mind.

The ad says the owner has over 20,000 invested and would take 5,500 for it. He has lowered to price several times is what the ad says.

 

now now boiis!,there is no need to turn against eachother pickin sides,im not trying to break up the family here,This whole thread is about getting various opinions on the renderings I made,in the end i make the call,but that doesnt mean all and any opinions are not appreciated wether they are optimistic or pesimistic. Comments and recoomendations are mor ethan welcomed wether they are good or bad,keep them comming.After all how could we improve a design if we never received any kind of criticism? If I do make the mod,it will be completely easily reversible.

 

Well what did you think of the pic I found. Is this what you had in mind.

 

The thumbnail doesnt work,but from what i can see,he chopped the hole center section off the hood like in my original idea,Im not digging the chrome grill or the paint job,maybe thats why i think it doesnt look right,If i went with my second rendering id bet it would look 100% better.

 

Made it a little bigger for you.

 

Interesting pic Andy. I guess what bothers me the most is that this guy claims to have "invested" over 20,000.00 and is willing to take 5,000.00 to get rid of it. Something just doesn't add up. You know the saying that when it sounds too good to be true, it usually isnt? Well, the BS meter went off the chart when I read into that part that he was willing to take a 15,000.00 sacrifice. This is also a good example of a modification that no one wants. To recoup any $$ on this, how hard would it be to restore the original look and get some more serious coin back on it? I am curious to know what other "creative improvements" went into this car. I still don't like the way it's presented. So apparently do the buyers in his market if it's still for sale. Got a face only a mother could love.

 

wow that grill is just ugly,looks like it came off cadillac or somethin,white and purple?just ugly, this looks like a lowrider themed cutlass with the pinstripping,tinted windows and colors used,I guess to the lowrider crowd,this grill would look cool.

 

The first picture....NO WAY!

The second......Well, would only be cool if it came from George Barris. And then I'm not really sure.

 

Yeah that was my point. I thought I would give an example of what the end result would be. I found it on cragslist. The ad was full of BS and bad ideas. Sometimes a visual aid will help more than words.

 

No breaking up the family. You asked for opinions and that's what we gave. In the end we're trying to save you money. When you modify a car you are making a one-off that hopefully someone else will buy when you are looking for something else to work on. Based on the opinions here, you can be sure that it will be hard to sell for real money once a prospective buyer figures in how much he'll have to spend to get it back to looking original . Like it or not, that's where the money is. It doesn't have to be original, it just has to look it. If you were selling this car to us perhaps only one would be willing to buy, however his positive opinion to "do it" was based on it being your car. He didn't say if he liked it.

It is your car and you can do whatever you want if it makes you happy. That's what this hobby is all about. However, we just want you to know that you may get a shock when you try to resell. If you're going to keep the car and hand it down to family, when the time comes to sell it, they can regret the modifications at that time.

The people here are giving you their opinions not because they want to insult you, on the contrary, they want to help you. There is a lot of experience here.

 

So what is he advertising it as? An Oldsmolark? A Skymobile. A Cutelle? A 442GS, or just a screwup that no one wants.

Kid, I don't see this would be any different than your first rendering. You were proposing a fabrication, not a paint scheme. This one has done the fabrication and left the paints scheme. (you can still see the exposed metal on the hood) All he'd have to do it paint the grille black and lose the signal lamps (which I think are required by law). Your right that the paint on the hood is not right-according to factory schematics- but then you know my opinon on this redesign thing already. It's interesting that you don't really like this design now just based on color scheme or what is defined by bright accents. Hey, just thought of something. It needs a hood ornament!!

Yup, go with the second rendering. I can accept that its a band-aid attempt to make a Cutlass look better, if it was broken and needed some work and there was no spare parts to be had.

I'd still love to see a picture of the car you bought and are proposing to alter.....

 

I doubt if the guy will ever sell the car, but you never know. How about "Buttmobile" someone needed a good kick in the rear. When they came up with that car design. Just to make the front look right. You would have to replace the hood, bumper, and grill. Yes it needs to be painted. There was other pics on the ad, but I didn't see any point in saving them. So it would cost 5,000 to buy the car than 5,000 to fix the body. Depending on who did the work. Yeah someone would have to be hard up for a Cutlass. I would hate being seen driving it before fixing it.

 

Could be bought as a parts car. Not many people will pay big bucks for an Olds parts car.

 

LOL not sure if FIXED UP is the correct term for what was done to this car.

 

How about a bad face lift, or crack baby gone bad.

 

Tell you what would be funny. The owner of the buttmoblile joins this website hoping to sell his car to find us making fun of it.

 

A lot of No's....I say If your going to do an Oldsmobile in any way do as if Oldsmobile was redoing it to be a Mondrian day muscle car,don't destroy the Oldsmobile look that set it self apart from the rest.

 

Before we get into all kinds of technicalities, I wanna give out some information on my car
1.I purchased the car for $1300.00
2.The car is a 1970 All original cutlass supreme holiday hardtop,no rust except the front fenders(common)
3..my plans are not to restore the car at all to original specs,on the contrary i wanna make it a custom daily driver.
4.If and when i decided to sell it,im pretty sure i can sell it for more than 1 grand or at least part it out for that much,so im not worried about getting my money back or loosing money.
5.All modifications done to the car are completely reversible and quick to do so, and im not planning to hack anything up,just remove and install.

heres a pic of what it looks like now
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I guess you need to start a build tread and keep us updated. Good luck.

 

Keep us posted.

 

Now you're talkin!

 

i say leave the olds as is and do it to dodge

 

Whats Mondrian???