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1971 Oldsmobile 442 W 30 Convertible
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Consignment # 42-6623
VIN: 344671M206252

Lot Number: TH280 Thursday (Approx. 4:30PM - 5:00PM)

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This is a 1971 Olds Cutlass Convertible W-30 with an automatic transmission, 455ci V-8 with 370hp Code TT, power steering, power brakes, power windows, power seats, AM/FM radio, tape player, air conditioning and a body-on restoration.

This car is extremely unusual in that it is a 1971 W-30 with a complete higher-horsepower factory numbers-matching engine that was probably remaining from 1970 production. This is possibly the only 1971 W-30 with a correct 1970 W-30 engine. The uniqueness of this car could possibly make it the most desirable 1971 W-30 convertible in existence, in that the 1970 motor is a TT code 455 cid 370 HP Versus the 1971 specs as 455/350 HP the heads casting # is 409160 H and the intake identification is W-455 raised letter Oldsmobile. (The heads also are H coded 1970 W-30).

Oldsmobile aficionados have guessed that this car is the probable result of the low production of W-30's in 1970 and represents a leftover motor that was eventually put into production for the 1971 model year. There apparently was a heated debate at Oldsmobile to determine the W-30 option for 1971, because of the low production of 1970 models. They would also tell you that this motor, because of the matching number, was likely left over from 1970 production and was installed in this 1971 W-30 convertible. The car certainly represents a unique variance in a historically significant car.

citcapp

Another rare Olds with a special story. I can hardly wait to write the check, I don't care what is costs. I will spend every thing in my wife's egg money jar.

wmachine

I read through a few of the other Oldsmobile descriptions too, and shortly ended up to my eyeballs in BS like this.

Bear in mind the the auction houses post whatever information the sellers give them, and it is up to the buyer (not the auction house) to verify the information. Of course that is in the fine print of the auction houses terms and condition, but they are quite content to keep it in the fine print and let the seller dupe the buyer because they are legally fault free. Auction houses are a Hall of Shame for fraudulent cars. And buyers with more money than sense.

Oldsguy

four key words:

probably..........possibly...........probable..... ...apparently.

Bluevista

So what's the problem?

You never know??
Nothing's impossible.

I'm not saying it's not susperious but the UAW did have a nationwide 67 day strike against General Motors in 1970 and some weird stuff happened on some of the the early 71's.
They did have stock left from the 70's because of it, like the smooth ridge 70 fenders on early 71's.

wmachine

Yeah, um , okay. I'll have the turnip truck stop and pick you up on the way back. Meanwhile, I'm gunna git in line behind Citcapp.......

rocketraider

I'm calling boolshat simply because of the change in emissions standards between 1970 and 1971. GM wouldn't have been about to risk the fines associated with building a car like this.

H-coded 1970 W30 heads?! What planet did this crackhead land from?!

And everybody wonders why I hate the auction circuses... They've done far more damage than good to the old car hobby.

MN71W30

I was at the Russo Steele auction house last winter in Phenoix and noticed the cars were generally not as nice as the Barrett Jackson cars. I saw some real piles of crap in the RS tent.

toro68

My red 1968 W-34 Toronado was sold at Barrett-Jackson, back in the Spring of 2005 (West Palm Beach, FL). The capation of this car said only 117 or 118 W-34 Toros for 1968. Wrong. Its 111 !


When I bought the W-34 from the B-J buyer in late 2005/early 2006, I still had to buy a new starter for it. He barely broke even from what he paid for it.
But still , I was looking for this Toronado for 8-9 years!
You can read more about the crazy adventures of the W-34, by clicking onto the Cardomain link.

It seems the "high end" cars at Barttet-Jackson, is sold in Jan, and the "drivers" are sold in March (from FL).

Blk71SX

it all comes down to documentation! paperwork! without it, it's just a pretty car to impress the uninformed and gullible.

caveat emptor. believe it or not, there are people that go to any lengths to screw the motoring public.

wmachine

Exactly. Otherwise we could just dismiss them as pompously insignificant. But they are "part of the problem".

wmachine

Yes, and unfortunately it means that documentation is also being forged, *including* paperwork. So now what? That is kind of damage being done.

toro68

I never got the paperwork for my red Toronado almost 5 years ago!

squirell

I think this was 1 of the cars damaged in the tent collapse thread also in General disscusion

w-30dreamin

I agree,

1970 = F heads
1971 = H heads

although some strange things happened around model change periods