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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Really? Again?

Let's see what the CO community thinks of this issue. I'm becoming convinced to never sell stuff again unless folks what to drive to eastern IL and hand pick out parts. I have posted in the for sale section I had 3 sets of what I believe are nos scripts for 68 98. Front and back photos of what's there. I was contacted to see if any were left. Knocked 20% off the asking price. No box, what you see is what you get. Set pins in styrofoam, taped to it, wrapped in a box, placed in a bag and shipped. I am being asked for a refund as there are no clips, they are very fragile and can flex but will push into the trunk lid just fine. Also the contention is they are replated. I have included extra close photos of one of the other sets. Is there a plater anywhere in the U.S. that can replate a script that does not get the tiny bubbles between the lines? I've never gotten back a fine detailed piece with no bubbles. Very similar to ashtray assemblies in a 60s car. I can't get a rechromed part back without bubbles between the ribs in the casting. The script has the black accent paint and all the mounting tabs are in place. If these are in your guys opinion in fact rechromed, I have clearly misrepresented them and should refund. Input?
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 10:25 AM
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Old Sep 25, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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If you sent him pix like these which clearly show the detail of the emblem then my answer is NO.

Now with that said in the second pic they almost do look like they could have been replated but I am not familiar with what the NOS ones should look like. Either way they look really nice.
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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I'm not sure how to link the original ad but bumped it up on the for sale forum.
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 03:28 PM
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if they used pal nuts or ballel clips there should be mars in the pegs even if they were replated. and I don't see any. I would say nos or aftermarket,but I doubt after market makes these
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 04:53 PM
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I don't know anyone who does repop these, even Fusick. The problem I'm told is the chrome is perfect so it must be rechromed. Am I missing something here? I've been bitched to that the NOS part isn't perfect enough but to sell it as probably NOS but I can't be sure, have the buyer think it's too nice to be as such, but unusable anyway? Why do I still collect this **** to sell my extras?
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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I have found that quite often NOS chrome pieces are not as good quality as what a good chrome shop can do with tired originals. Point in case, I have a set of NOS 1970 hockey stick moldings without the original box, one side has a little "nib" in the chrome. I decided to rechrome an original used set as opposed to using the new original. No regrets. I rarely sell anything but when I do, I always sell with a satisfaction guaranteed promised with a full refund minus shipping fees upon return in the same condition sent. Much like the wheels I brought to you in Albuquerque. Had you been dissapointed, I would have brought them home and refunded your money....no problem. Sorry you are having difficulties, remember the buyer and don't make the same mistake..
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 07:02 PM
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And that's the issue I'm having. God knows how many small detailed pieces I've had chromed over the years and without fail, they never come back as good as an NOS piece. Yes they are shiny, but upon inspection, it's shiny with lots of little defects. Larger smooth trim pieces don't have these issues. Lower trim like a 64 Starfire will have these type defects due to the sharp angles of the casting. I've never had a good answer from chromers as I always figured, they made it excellent once, why can't it be done again? There are none of those defects in these parts. I really am irritated to make a decision. Going back and forth to retrieve a part, take photos, back to town to package, now go to the post office and get a refund request cause it's too nice so it must be bogus? At what point do you draw the line as to not letting any of the stuff go as its going to be a crap shoot. I guess I'm tired of having my time wasted. I'll sleep on it.
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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Hey Heath, I forgot your handle. Certainly good points but what was the mistake I made? Not jumping you on this but I'm lost as to what am I supposed to do different with guys? Photos with descriptions are no longer valid? Maybe the key is to never sell a part until you have met someone face to face at a show, if they buy a part and know the type of stuff I have, then do business by mail? It's quickly becoming apparent that the museum may be the only way I will do business. Come and look around, if you want to buy a part great. And no shipping issues, and no returns period.
Old Sep 25, 2017 | 08:31 PM
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Not neccessarily a mistake, but learning for your experience. I think that selling used parts is not as easy as it may seem. The experienced sellers with great feedback have the patience to deal with a lot of "stuff" that many of us don't want to. More often than not, people want "some thin' for nuthn'..... I would suppose that if you are in the business of selling parts, you need to have a good knowledge of what you are selling, it's true market value, if you are not selling face to face, a good full disclosure description, and enough gumption and skin to stand your ground when the millennial minded snowflakes start crying. My friend Art once told me about an experience he had at a swap meet. A fella came by an liked a particular part he had on display. He continued to brow beat him about the price and even demanded that he sell the item for the price that HE felt was fair... Art got out of his chair, picked up the said part and smashed it to pieces on the ground and replied "Now you can have it for your price!" This story made a lasting impression on me about respecting the value of ones property. Although admittedly I did laugh, if I see something that I'd like to purchase and the price exceeds my budget, I am cautious and respectful with my counteroffer.

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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 05:38 AM
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Well that's why I was looking for input from some of the old timers as to my original question. If the consensus is this is clearly a rechromed piece, I'm wrong. I've only been selling stuff here and there for a few years and only been a buyer for 30+ so I assumed I had a good bead on what constitutes used and new. My experience has this as NOS and not aftermarket. Why? As far as I know, no one makes these. No defects in the chrome and again, from personal parts going to a chromer, not only have I not gotten script back without defects, I've never had them reapply the paint inside the lines? Who do you guys use that actually rechrome your parts and repaint them like the factory part straight from the chromer? I guess I need to find a better source for my personal stuff.
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:36 AM
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I had a recent situation with a buyer who purchased some rocket emblems for his wire wheel covers... Once received, the buyer realizes the mounting tabs are different then his and asked for a refund... As this individual was a second time buyer, I offered a full credit refund including shipping cost, as well as shipping cost back to me or a cash refund of his initial cost and he pays shipping back to me... The individual chose a credit and subsequently purchased additional items... This transaction was a win win for both of us...
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 11:27 AM
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I decided to offer a refund minus 10% for the hassle. Still asking, but has anyone had a part like this rechromed and got it back in factory condition? Grooves inside the lines correctly painted and such? If so, what did it cost? I'd like to throw my business to that outfit as its a PITA to tape off the detail on parts like this and get it right.
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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I painted my emblem with a brush and then wiped the excess paint off the chrome with a rag dipped in Acetone, looked like the originals. Hard to tell if yours were rechromed, but they look pretty nice by the pics.
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 01:18 PM
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I was kind of surprised to learn that Fusick isn't selling these. I see they have '70 scripts (with white paint), but no others. I'm thinking there was a time a while back that they were offering these as repops, used up their supply, and didn't restock. I remember seeing in an old catalog that they had limited stock on some scripts that were not going to be re-ordered. Maybe these are some of those?

What is with the wire retainer things on this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-OLDS...358081?vxp=mtr

You're didn't have those? Would they have come with them originally, or would they have been separate?

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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 02:26 PM
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The sets I got in an estate sale were not in boxes, just marked NOS 1968 98. But the casting number on the backside isn't the part number GM used. That's why I said in the ad to be sure it's the right one for you. There are several year scripts that appear the same but are not upon closer inspection. I've had other year trunk emblems for my 63 and the push in clips were in the box loose.
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 02:31 PM
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I will need to try that next time I get trim done. I would think the acetone would still get the inner paint. I assume you just degrease the fresh chrome, shoot Krylon over it and use a damp cotton cloth?
Old Sep 26, 2017 | 03:00 PM
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I use a brush inside the letter areas, then I poke my index finger into a Tshirt type rag and clean the excess off the chrome part of the scripts by wiping gently with the tip just dampened with acetone. I do it just as the paint gets tacky before it dries. Works on almost anything with raised areas and leaves the paint inside the crevice.
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